2017 Toyota 86 - new name, styling, and more power

[Deathalo]

Originally Posted by super-86

Maybe it's just me but I LOVE the circular LEDS on the FRS. I'd swap em' out if I get the 17'

I'd be willing to swap taillights with any new 2017 owners!

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by Zaku

@ichitaka05 ok, but I'm not going into full details for work related purposes.

Story goes while I was there I ran into three of their PR and PDM, seeing that this would be a perfect opportunity to ask about the BRZ I asked politely "with the twin sports cars being so popular and the 86 being here in NYIAS is there any chance we'll get to see the BRZ soon?" One manager looked confused "86?" I jokingly added "besides online" in which we all laughed, then the lead PR person went " we know how that happened and we don't care we're not going to change our schedule just because Something leaked,we'll show it when it's ready" other PR Manager laughs "are you with Subaru? Or Toyota" I answered "No just a fan of the car" they all laugh at me " we build the damn car so we don't care about them,they can't do anything unless we say so they can try to release all they want if we say no it's not happening" they all continue laughing they see me as kind of a joke, "product planning at its best" one of them said and walked away. I told them "thank you" and continued my work which was to film the new impreza and while we had our own script and opinions of the car the manager person stood there correcting us pushing words into our presenter, in an uncalled for way they even started to say things like "it's better than a Corolla it's safer" when we didn't even make any mention. There attitudes were terrible, things could have ended with "We can't talk about it" Nope it was basically I stood there getting mocked. I'd admit I might have pushed a button but as a professional how about keeping your cool. On the opposite side TOYOTA PR and team were the most amazing people I've ever met!

Thanks for the anecdote, and sorry you were treated this way.

Advertising people can be massively pompous jerks and not even realize it. I'm just close enough to a group of them in pharma. PR people trying to keep you "on message" by correcting you is also common (and sad... and annoying...). Funny thing is, they (PR people) generally have little to do with the actual product, or release schedules, even if they like to pretend that they do.

[Quentin]

@Zaku You should have thanked them for ensuring that Toyota didn't take out the Subaru rattles that I've had in every damn one of my Subarus.

Honestly, this platform is the only way that you could get me back into a Subaru. Unfortunately, with 18k miles, it feels like it will age like a Subaru more than a Toyota.


Sent from Tandy 400

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by Quentin

@Zaku You should have thanked them for ensuring that Toyota didn't take out the Subaru rattles that I've had in every damn one of my Subarus.

Honestly, this platform is the only way that you could get me back into a Subaru. Unfortunately, with 18k miles, it feels like it will age like a Subaru more than a Toyota.


Sent from Tandy 400

Rattles, it's what makes a subaru a subaru

[NyC Zn6]

Originally Posted by Deathalo

I'd be willing to swap taillights with any new 2017 owners!

Or you can buy Valenti since there the same shit

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by NyC Zn6

Or you can buy Valenti since there the same shit

but that costs money

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by NyC Zn6

Or you can buy Valenti since there the same shit

I think he wants to trade straight across stock for stock. I suppose someone might want to.

[sprintertrueno86]

Originally Posted by raven1231

Rattles, it's what makes a subaru a subaru

My 2013 BRZ rattles like crazy especially when temps fluctuate. But my 06 LGT with 70k had 0 rattles.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

I think he wants to trade straight across stock for stock. I suppose someone might want to.

I would if I was getting the 17. Well I would trade for a 15 or 16 tails but not the 13 or 14 biosphere ones though.

[ToySub1946]

From ichitaka05, page 89.
"As for your question, they added sound deadening. To be technical they added 8kg of sound deadening & excess glue on the floor. Not sure on exact total weight difference"

Well, in my opinion, that's too bad.

I recall my lst drive in a Japanese car, it was early 1980s, driving a mid 1970s Japanese car for the first time. Refreshing I'd have called it. So many years driving Americans cars which were too isolated from the outside environment. Too quiet.
This first time in a Japanese car reminded me of Japanese tin toy cars I played with as a kid. They were thin, somewhat fragile, but well detailed.

In a car, I want to hear the tires, the rocks hitting the rear fender wells, all the good stuff which keeps me in tune with the road.
In fact, take that radio thing and shove it. Gimme a discount for a radio delete. I wanna hear and feel the car and it's workings myself whilst driving the thing.

Ever driven a car with no carpet ? Great idea it is, you can hear more of what's going on with the car. And so easy to clean.

Guess they, the engineers and designers are going for an upscale customer this time. Just look at that silly fuzz on the passenger side dash. Too fancy and also too bland color wise for me. Give me the faux carbon fiber of old. And me, I've never faulted the interior of the 13-16 models. I think it's extremely well thought out, perfect for a driver's car.

I just can't wait to hear all the technical details of changes for the 2017 model year. I care not about the looks of either the exterior or interior...just please let me know how the car is going to drive differently. Like...Have they yet done anything to fix the steering feel of the car ? Just another area in which I wanna be in touch with the road more...in my hands.

[strat61caster]

Saw an article about the new Camry, steering wheel looks familiar, probably already pointed out in the 90 pages on here but whatever, I smiled.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Saw an article about the new Camry, steering wheel looks familiar, probably already pointed out in the 90 pages on here but whatever, I smiled.

Hey Strat I think you and I have totally different definitions of "similar". If you are saying they both have buttons then ya but that is about where any similarities end. Not even remotely the same.

[Turbo95eg6]

What's up with the blank piece of plastic on the right?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Turbo95eg6

What's up with the blank piece of plastic on the right?

This year for BRZ probably next year for 86.