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Captain Snooze · 10-07-2014, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by djliquidsteele

It may be my ignorance of V8's, but why do the collectors on the headers taper so far down and them open back up? It seems like it would be restrictive.

Merge collector ftw!

http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...xhaust_system/

djliquidsteele · 10-08-2014, 08:28 PM

Sweet. Thanks for the link.

Squishy · 10-28-2014, 11:29 PM

Any updates?

cf6mech · 10-29-2014, 05:48 AM

They are going to start working on it again this Thursday, Headers finally came back from the manufacturer CNC processing so they can make duplicates. They are in the process of moving to a bigger shop so things have been slow lately.

SomeoneWhoIsntMe · 10-29-2014, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by eikond

I agree completely.

You can get a Sikky (or a few others) LS1 swap kit for a 240sx for under $2k. (engine and trans mounts, oil pan, driveshaft,) Sikky is $1750.

Weapons Grade offers the identical parts + brake master cylinder for $3750. I know that master cylinder isn't worth $2k.

You can actually buy parts for the 240sx LS1 swap a-la-carte from Enjuku and get them for less (mounts for $300, Oil Pan for $400, DS for $300, headers $600, power steering kit for $300, BMC for $250, and converted wire harness for $600 = Grand total of $2750)

Now for the BRZ/FRS:
I know the world revolves around supply and demand.. so as other companies get into the game they will certainly drive down prices. I would expect WGP to charge a bit of a premium to start because they have put so much R&D into it. But I think double the price of a base install kit is a little high.

The big part of a full swap kit would have to be the electrical (wiring/ecu stuff) to make sure everythings works properly.. that's certainly the hard part.. and can certainly be expensive.. So i'm sure this is going to keep the prices high for a while. At least until some pioneering forum member does it all from scratch (successfully) and shares the results.

*note.. I'm not saying I would do an LS1 swap or that I think it's the best option for this car.. just commenting on the costs vs. other platforms to see what is a reasonable price for swap kits.

I'm glad you can buy 1JZ/2JZ mounts for the BRZ/FRS for $300 from Xcessive, the stock oil pan just works so you don't need to waste money on a swap pan, aftermarket downpipes clear the crossmember just fine, so if you can come up with a trans mount (hopefully XM or another manufacturer steps up to the plate with this one), and if you can order a driveshaft (I'm sure someone will figure out the length and start selling it off the shelf, probably DSS), you're home free.

you're right, hopefully someone will go through the trouble of figuring out how to piggyback the stock ECU to keep steering assist, gauges, etc, because swaps could get a LOT cheaper than $9k in the near future.

Aaronimoe · 10-29-2014, 09:50 AM

What will you be doing with your old engine?

Floggin Tires · 10-29-2014, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaronimoe

What will you be doing with your old engine?

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Originally Posted by cf6mech

btw that engine is for sale and someone is going to get a swinging deal on it. I gotta have 20k wrapped up in that thing over the cost of the engine itself.

cf6mech · 10-29-2014, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaronimoe

What will you be doing with your old engine?

Its been sold.

cf6mech · 10-29-2014, 02:47 PM

Mishimoto radiator and custom dual fan setup.

cf6mech · 10-29-2014, 02:51 PM

cf6mech · 10-29-2014, 02:53 PM

VacantSky · 10-29-2014, 03:00 PM

This is in Plano TX? Any chance I could take a look, depending on their shop hours? I'm not from the area but I visit it often, I have a friend in McKinney. I'll be there the 7-10th November. Really would like to consider an LS swap one day and it would be cool to see one up close while in progress.

cf6mech · 10-29-2014, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by VacantSky

This is in Plano TX? Any chance I could take a look, depending on their shop hours? I'm not from the area but I visit it often, I have a friend in McKinney. I'll be there the 7-10th November. Really would like to consider an LS swap one day and it would be cool to see one up close while in progress.

I'm sure they would let you check it out along with their other projects just give them a call, they are right in the middle of moving though so stuff is in disarray. Check out their radical Miata build.

mike the snake · 10-29-2014, 05:56 PM

The radiator can be moved forward on the lower mounts very easily by just drilling new holes for the lower posts and grinding that tab off the frame.

I did this on my turbo install to gain extra clearance.

In your pics, you can see how easy it is to do. Grind tab, drill holes, and move forward over 1''.

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