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04-18-2012, 12:56 PM | #15 |
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After driving the car, I can say with a good degree of confidence that it feels almost as good as the RX8 as far as feel and 'weight' go. Im of the opinion that the RX8 turns in quicker though.
Believe me, comparing this car to an RX8 is quite the complement, for all the failure in marketing and engine life that the RX8 is attributed with, its still one of the best handling cars under $40k. |
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I'm afraid the Elise may be the last car offered with manual steering. Sub-3,000lb cars really don't need it IMO. As long as the EPS doesn't feel like it does in modern Corollas I'll be OK.
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The steering most likely feels "light" to those drivers because of skinny tires, lightweight car, and not having the engine sit in front of the wheels. Once everybody throws on their wide and sticky summer tires, you'll appreciate the power steering when it comes to low-speed traffic and parking.
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Though I can almost guarantee that Toyota have "fixed" this for the GT86, as I haven't heard a single complaint from any of the reveiws about the EPAS being bad. Not to mention EPAS is also used in the LFA (though obviously a different version), and that's supposed to be plenty good to drive!
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This is what you want: http://www.autospeed.com/cms/article.html?&A=111532
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My MR2 has no power steering and while it's fine at higher speed, it's a bit crap at low speeds |
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Oh my god people if you haven't driven the car don't comment on how the steering is "light" or how all electronic assist programs are horrible....unless your previous daily driver is completely unassisted or a go kart you are probably going to love the steering's weight. Any sloppiness is from the high sidewall stock tires. Just like what AVO said. No, it isn't going to feel like an unassisted rack and pinion, unless it's an unassisted rack and pinion.
Anyway, for OP, it sounds pretty sketch. I think there's a lot easier ways to improve feel, such as poly bushings, lower profile/harder sidewall tires, more front camber, a strut bar. Sometimes to improve one thing you have to improve everything around it.
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I'm more concerned with the light gas peddle feel, if you go boosted and hit a few bumps at slow speeds your in for a jerky ride....manual of course.You go with wider tires the steering is perfect.
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My old echo didn't come with power steering, and it was real heavy once I put the summer wide wheels and tires on it. My yaris has the power assist, and I hear its as simple as removing the fuse if you want to feel what its like.
Check the fuse box perhaps it can be done with the FRS/BRZ (don't have mine yet)
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Hey all - just came across this thread via a google search. I recently posted about my brand new 86 having very light steering all of a sudden. To the point where it has little resistance or driver / road feedback. I also feel as though there is lag between me turning the wheel and the car actually responding. Finally, I feel I have to turn the steering wheel way too much for the resulting steer amount. One day it was fine, the next day it was lazy/light and vague.
I have tried various tyre pressures, all no affect. It honestly feels like the EPS system is messing up. It feels like it is giving me assistance to stop the wheel from being heavy, but it's not actually assisting in turning the car's wheels.
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The FR-S' power steering is fine. And yes it is parasitic, but you wouldn't notice a difference. Why? because the alternator only outputs a fraction of power that the engine can produce. Why didn't they go with a hydraulic steering pump? That would suck the power out of that little engine. Why did they choose the electric power steering? Because it didn't take too much power away from the engine. You can test whether the electrical power steering, AC unit, rear defroster, and what not are sucking power away from the engine. Let it idle, move the steering wheel back and forth. Does the rpm dip? when you turn on the AC unit, does the rpm dip? when you turn on the rear defroster, does the rpm dip? Most of those will be yes, but negligible when you are red lining it. If I took the motor that does the power steering assist, I could tell you how much it is really sucking from the engine. |
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You might want to look at your control arm and/or steering rack bushings. |
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