Toyota 86 / Scion FR-S Convertible Roadster confirmed (with photos from Long Beach)

[Alfie]

This could have been an important debut,

but instead it looks like a redneck's backyard project!

...now that iQ from the front looks proper! As good as a Mini or Fiat500 convertable!
I can picture a few girls in it!

[Lowellrenzo]

Fuck off that shit ain't no roadster it's called roofless

[ahausheer]

Originally Posted by Dillano609

I thought they weren't going to make a convertible for this car to maintain the structural rigidity of the car?

Yeah they used that weak excuse to poo poo the hatch as well.

[daiheadjai]

Originally Posted by AeroWRX

Subaru chief engineer explicitly said no convertible as it wasn't designed for it. Toyota chief engineer says convertible is a possible idea and will probably push for it if they see good sales numbers.

Subaru was the only one who cared about the engineering aspects since they were responsible for it. Toyota doesn't care as much as pushing for this car to be successful in every way. That includes coming out with a convertible that has weaker structural integrity just to satisfy aesthetic reasons.

I'd disagree with that - having sunk in the bulk of the money for this car, and needing to rejuvenate its image more than Subaru does, I would say Toyota has more riding on the success of this car that Subaru does (which still has several sporty options in its stable).

[Xdragonxb0i]

Originally Posted by Zaku

Convertible is bad , Hey that's what they said about the 370Z roadster, and it's still almost as good as the Coupe. I say Almost with a grain of salt. Let's not forget the Miata... and S2k are Roadsters.

according to TOP Gear, buy a roadster that is designed to be a roadster,


Your right, Almost as good.
when a coupe/sedan becomes a convertible, the designers will have to add more support to increase rigidity, and the mechanism for the roof which means more weight.

i think the the sketch is sexy as hell, but i will get the coupe.

[Racelex]

Render in the first photo looks decent, but the one off custom looks horrible.

Judging from the cage on the side of the doors, i'm going to say the chassis is going to be as strong as wet noodles once the roof is chopped off. I wonder how much weight it would put on top of the GT86 to give it the stiffness it had before.

[swift996]

This car is going to be the worst. I hope they don't do this or high school girls will be driving these around.

[tripjammer]

They said they designed the car from the beginning as a convertible, so if they did there will be a convertible.

Toyota, Scion and Subaru needs a convertible that is RWD and bigger than a smallish miata. The problem is how much more will it weigh?

[KatHawkDown]

Lots of people here have never taken marketing and apparently it has not dawned on them that Toyota is well aware that there are more potential segments for this platform than the forum-going motoring enthusiast.

How will spawning a convertible variant of the platform be a bad thing? Toyota is down right clinical about the business viability of every project they undertake so any discussion about a convertible variant being a "bad" decision is just laughable.

[KatHawkDown]

Originally Posted by AeroWRX

...Toyota doesn't care as much as pushing for this car to be successful in every way. That includes coming out with a convertible that has weaker structural integrity just to satisfy aesthetic reasons.

You must mean the aesthetics of a financial statement...yes I agree.

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by ahausheer

Yeah they used that weak excuse to poo poo the hatch as well.

They said something about the structure and it adds weight.

But then there is this. The Great Hatch vs Trunk Debate(poll).

I guess I'll keep waiting.

[schlomo]

Good gracious. That looks so terrible. <--opinion

[Xdragonxb0i]

Originally Posted by KatHawkDown

Lots of people here have never taken marketing and apparently it has not dawned on them that Toyota is well aware that there are more potential segments for this platform than the forum-going motoring enthusiast.

How will spawning a convertible variant of the platform be a bad thing? Toyota is down right clinical about the business viability of every project they undertake so any discussion about a convertible variant being a "bad" decision is just laughable.

i agree, not everyone that will be buying frs are gonna be motorheads,
there is always a market for convertibles.

[FRSfan111]

The one from the show was a 1off. They had a guy do a chop top for a marshal car to lead the parade b4 the grand pri in long beach this weekend. That is not what a convertible would look like if they went into production. This ifo came from jack Hollis ad a few of the other 20 people that actually work for scion lol. And yes scion consist of about 20 people total.