FR-S/BRZ vs Toyota FT1

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by suaveflooder

HAHAHAHA! Love you, dude!! It's funny because it's true

I'm sure I pissed off the Subie fanboi's!


On a side note, a lot of people are expecting 100K for this car. It was mentioned that 3 tiers were going to be made, Lexus-LF-LC, Toyota FT-1 and Toyota GT86. THis has to be the middle one.





Calty's starting point was to design a sports car with a theoretical $50,000-$60,000 price tag, Hunter said. That meant designing something wild, but not so exotic that it pushed the car into the territory that would make it a Lexus.

"We didn't want [Toyota Motor top management] to see this and think it was a $150,000 car," Hunter said. "We also did the Lexus LF-LC [concept coupe] at Calty, so we wanted a different form vocabulary for this car. Anything that looked like the LF-LC was rejected. That car was more touring oriented, while this is a pure sports car."


http://www.autonews.com/article/2014...#axzz2qQ8ezH23

[Gen]

Originally Posted by RRnold

I'm sure I pissed off the Subie fanboi's!


On a side note, a lot of people are expecting 100K for this car. It was mentioned that 3 tiers were going to be made, Lexus-LF-LC, Toyota FT-1 and Toyota GT86. THis has to be the middle one.





Calty's starting point was to design a sports car with a theoretical $50,000-$60,000 price tag, Hunter said. That meant designing something wild, but not so exotic that it pushed the car into the territory that would make it a Lexus.

"We didn't want [Toyota Motor top management] to see this and think it was a $150,000 car," Hunter said. "We also did the Lexus LF-LC [concept coupe] at Calty, so we wanted a different form vocabulary for this car. Anything that looked like the LF-LC was rejected. That car was more touring oriented, while this is a pure sports car."


http://www.autonews.com/article/2014...#axzz2qQ8ezH23

I'm certainly hoping. If it were released and I can get one of these in the 50-60k range...the FR-S is moving into the driveway.

[airjonny]

So this is going to be either really affordable (relatively) in the 40-50k range...or most likely GTR money. Would they price it in the same range as the RC-F?

[Bonburner]

I'm personally expecting it to be at 38-45k lol
too much intrusion into lexus' side otherwise .. I think :x

[Gen]

Originally Posted by Bonburner

I'm personally expecting it to be at 38-45k lol
too much intrusion into lexus' side otherwise .. I think :x

I can't imagine it would resemble the concept too much at that price. Then again, the FR-S is a large-ish departure from the earlier concepts.

[JS + BRZ]

Come on guys. This is going to be a Supra. More like a M3/GTR/C7 fighter.

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[Bonburner]

Originally Posted by Gen

I can't imagine it would resemble the concept too much at that price. Then again, the FR-S is a large-ish departure from the earlier concepts.

lol im expecting the production to look 25% of the concept

[kALMIGHTY]

How long before someone makes this like they did with the LFA kits? Minus the headlights of course.

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by JS + MS3

Come on guys. This is going to be a Supra. More like a M3/GTR/C7 fighter.

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Yeah and even Kevin Hunter mentioned a 50-60K range. This would put it just below the RC-F which makes sense.

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say 60K starting plus a 15K dealer markup because salesman are greedy bastards.

Originally Posted by kALMIGHTY

How long before someone makes this like they did with the LFA kits? Minus the headlights of course.

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Hopefully NEVER!

[quasi86]

^^^ Not sure about the 15k DAP! I'm a salesman and I have too be greedy to put food on the table but people aren't stupid.

If it has twice the power as the FR-S and 1/2 of the chassis and design of the LFA under (minus the carbon fiber show) there they will have a legit competitor to the Corvette.

Would think they wouldn't be able to charge as much as the Corvette though. Even with similar power numbers.

To me this car looks exactly at the same stage as the "FT-86" was at its unveiling at the New York auto show. It came out less than a year after that. I expect that with the "FT-1" to the Supra transition to happen very similarly.

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[quasi86]

Originally Posted by Ouhei

If they're bringing back the Supra, you can bet it's going to be spec'd/priced to compete with the GTR (and presumably NSX). To price it lower would make it a 370z competitor and that just doesn't seem to be what they're going for with that design.

Think more Corvette! That's how I have always seen the Supra. They modeled the FR-S after the Porsche Cayman. Now the Supra can be a direct competitor to the Cayman as well. No way this car is going for 100k.


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[Gen]

Originally Posted by quasi86

If it has twice the power as the FR-S and 1/2 of the chassis and design of the LFA under (minus the carbon fiber show) there they will have a legit competitor to the Corvette.

That's all I'm hoping for. There's just nothing appealing to me in the 50-60k segment for some reason. Porsches are just so vanilla and corvettes are too midlife crisis for me. (I know, blasphemy on both fronts)

[Whitigir]

Eventhough the vette is too midlife crisis....it performances are indeniably good. Toyota can not be that expensive, can they ? Lets take c7 price and cut down 7-10k.

We are looking at 45k +

[Gen]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

Eventhough the vette is too midlife crisis....it performances are indeniably good. Toyota can not be that expensive, can they ? Lets take c7 price and cut down 7-10k.

We are looking at 45k +

Oh no doubt it has performance...especially with the C7. They've just never done it for me.