STS Turbo Kit

[midnight23]

I emailed them last night, if I get any updates i'll post them in this thread.

[midnight23]

"Our full bolt on kit comes with vehicle specific ceramic coated pipes, a vehicle specific STS remote mount turbo sized out for your horse power and torque goals, STS intercooler, proprietary oiling system, Turbo smart waste gate and blow off valve, STS wiring harness, all the vehicle specific lines and fittings, optional tuning package and a full step by step instruction manual. We also offer additional system upgrades such as ball bearing turbo, electronic boost controller, heat shield, etc. Usually we see a 20-25 hp increase per pound of boost and a 10-15% mpg increase. I think that our turbo system would work really well on your BRZ and make a huge horse power difference. The great thing about our turbo system is that you are gaining performance and you are keeping the drivability of the vehicle. The base turbo kit for your BRZ/FRS will be around $4495-$5995 depending on options and if you want the intercooled kit and tuning package. Let me know if there is anything else I can help you with. Thank you.

Popular optional components and upgrades include:
STS Turbo Dual Stage Boost Controller $175 – Allows for a low and high boost setting. Allows you to change low/high boost from inside the vehicle and is fully adjustable
STS Turbo Water Methanol Injection System $499 – Arms with the electronic boost controller, lowers air intake temperatures, prevents detonation, strongly recommended for higher boost applications
STS Turbo Turbine Jackets $175 – Heat blanket that covers the exhaust housing of the turbo. Allows the turbo to reach operating temperature faster, increases spool up time, keeps turbo heat away from the vehicle
STS Turbocharger Ball Bearing Upgrade $600 – Decrease spool up time due to less friction on internal components, longer life and better throttle response
STS Turbocharger Compressor Wheel Upgrade $300 – Increased hp per pound of boost, better efficiency , allows for high boost pressure, ask for horse power rating
STS Turbo Wide Band/Boost Gauge set $600 – Allows you to watch boost levels and AFR, Strongly recommended on any application."

[Draco-REX]

Good for roll-racing... *shrug*

[nonicname returns]

why in the world would you use a turbo jacket with this setup?
it's so far away from the engine.

This Kit seems very expensive for not having a turbo manifold.
Also how are they running the oil to the turbo?

[Cross]

Originally Posted by SamS

Have the people complaining about lag experienced and measured it in real life? Turbos move air pretty darn quickly. A T3/T4 can move like 500cfm at full boost. To fill a 12 foot x 3" diameter charge pipe takes about .03 seconds at 500cfm. Certainly more time than a short charge pipe confined to an engine bay, but I can't say I'd be unhappy with that response time. Of course, there may be some variables I'm missing. This was just a quick calculation on my lunch break.

I wonder that to a few have already said it but I have been in an STS Rear Mount WS6 and it was not slow to build boost in fact it had boost by 2800rpm. A way to make this happen quickly was to decrease the charge pipe size. However that car did not see that done as the owner went to a front mount later on to make more power with a bigger turbo. However he really liked the setup but at some point you do run out of room for bigger turbos. But then this was a V8 setup not an FR-S 2.0L.

These systems do have their pitfalls and its nothing major.
1) if you blow a coupler it can be harder to get to but that's not uncommon for turbo cars.
2) Providing oil to the turbo can be an issue but STS really got that down years ago when they started these kits.

These kits are what you want to go with when you want stealth. If I wanted to go completely hidden this would be my choice but I prefer the Supercharger idea I have.


STS makes a decent product, is it perfect no. But then I don't know one shop that has a perfect product its all just a matter of opinion and we all have an opinion.

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by nonicname returns

why in the world would you use a turbo jacket with this setup?
it's so far away from the engine.

from http://www.ptpturboblankets.com/faqs.php

Second, a turbo blanket improves the performance of your turbocharger by keeping "the hot side hot." In keeping the exhaust gases within the turbocharger hot, turbocharger efficiency is improved. As you may know, the hotter a gas is, the more expansive it is. Within a contained system of a specified size, the more expansive a gas is, the greater the pressure derived and thus, the greater the flow of gas to escape the containment. With this increased pressure and flow rate for a given engine RPM, the acceleration of the turbocharger's impeller is increased as compared to the same turbocharger with the engine at the same RPM but with cooler exhaust gases. This equates to faster spool up of the turbocharger, as well as greater attainable levels of boost. What a driver will experience with a turbo blanket is greater turbocharger responsiveness. The faster spool up of the turbocharger means less turbo lag and a more linear power curve.

Third, a turbo blanket improves the performance of your turbocharger by keeping "the cool side cool." As you may know, it is very important to keep engine intake air cool. This is why intercoolers are often utilized with turbochargers. Similar to above, the cooler a gas is (such as intake air), the more dense it is. The more dense the intake air, the more oxygen it contains per unit volume. The more oxygen reaches the engine, the more power can be obtained. In keeping the heat of the exhaust gases contained within the hot side of the turbocharger and away from the cool side of the turbocharger and the intake path, more oxygen per unit volume reaches the engine, and thus, more power.

[GH05T]

I'm an absolute Forced Induction novice but wouldn't it be easier to twin charge with this kit since it won't clutter the engine bay? I would assume the Innovate supercharger would work with the STS turbo no?

[nonicname returns]

So wtf isnt there more info on this here?

[nonicname returns]

Im just gonna make my own if i dont see info soon. Pretty simple to replicate lol.

[glorydays]

Originally Posted by nonicname returns

So wtf isnt there more info on this here?

just google search roadstercycle. STS basically stole his idea.

[whitefrs]

Originally Posted by glorydays

just google search roadstercycle. STS basically stole his idea.

bye now

[glorydays]

not sure what ur eluding to... sts does kits for all kinds of cars but i believe (could be wrong) roadster finished his first for the brz/frs. please tell me ur not one of those sts-has-rear-turbo-patent guys.

[whitefrs]

I really dont care lol

Fullblown FTW


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[jwSubMOA]

Howdy guys. I had a complete STS kit on my previous 2012 CC Silverado. Ball bearing ceramic coated 68mm turbo, huge intercooler,meth kit, everything upgraded etc. The install was awful,nothing fit as it should and the kit needed lots of fitting. Eventually I had to mount the intercooler behind the grill and fab new piping as it would not fit between the frame rails. It worked pretty well but with substantial tuning issues. I set it up for 10psi boost with the supplied 38mm waste gate. It would blow right past 10 and run up to 15+ before leaveling off. I had to go to a 60mm waste gate to fix that. Throttle response and spool up was amazing,very nice near factory response and instant boost. The big problem was the pump that returns oil to the pan. It is not designed to run as constantly as is required, a common failure reported with STS kits. It failed while driving and the included alarm let me know right away. STS refused to replace it under warranty along with the turbo with blown seals. I purchased an Exapump for about $600 to replace it. This pump is perfect for rear mounts and can run constantly!

I like the rear mount idea and feel it works well for the twins ,however I would never buy a kit from them again. I would buy the components and fab my own set up.