Can hellaflush be done "right"

[LSxJunkie]

The world needs more of this. That is the most stretch I think I'd ever run.

[FR-Sizzle]

Originally Posted by LSxJunkie

Right, but this still looks and handles like hammered dogshit.

Lol sorry to bump this thread but I just had to respond since this is my friends s2000. He doesnt own it anymore but he was the one who had it painted that color before he got his Silvia S15...

His old red s2000 and s15 both have been featured in import tuner after he sold them and other well known magazines. Wouldnt be surprised if he had other cars that were features also.

Hes really well known on s2ki forums and probably was one of the first few people to start doing that hella flush stuff on s2000s back in 2004~. His current build is a custom wide body s2000 that is being done by Fast. He goes by silentdancer on s2ki and use to be a mod on those forums until he joined the navy if im not mistaken. He goes through wheels like how a person goes through shoes. Hes had like 3-5 cars since his first s2000. JDM RHD RSX Type R, EVO, multiple s2000s, M3, and now back to an s2000. Check out his build thread at the bottom of this post which has pictures of his old cars too. They all look very clean. But you will never catch me doing that hella flush stuff. Furthest I would go is slamming the car not extreme amounts of camber or anything.

Here is a picture of the car when he had it.




His S15

Originally Posted by Ryuu0u

If i'm not mistaken that S2k is bagged which is a waste imo.
Another thing about this hellaflush is that it's cool to have messed up body work due to your setup? So in turn having a crappy looking car is cool?
I'd rock a flush VIP car though. Let's also address what the hell "stance" is because that crap confuses me also as to what it is.

I love the Z and vette above though, proper fitment that looks performance oriented.

It isnt on bags. Its my friends old car before he sold it for an s15. Sold the S15 and bought another s2000 which is now getting custom work done by FAST.

And here is his current build, a custom widebody s2000. Still in the process of getting it done. But its going to look mean when it is complete. Google silentdancer and you will see a ton of his builds on various forums
http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/9786...-build-thread/

[TylerLieberman]

The "hellaflush" thing is a subjective matter. Most people do it because of the way it looks. Some people like it, some people don't. Most examples I see from the nay-sayers post extreme examples. 215s on 10.5j wheels with -8 camber and rolled/pulled to shit fenders with no suspension travel whatsoever.

There are cars out there, that achieve the same fitment without being so extreme.

Originally Posted by ebphoto

18x9.5 +25 _ 225/40 federal ss595

Yes the tires are stretched. Yes the car is low. Yes there is camber the fenders are modified accordingly to fit but this is a much better example than some of the ones I've seen posted.

People will sit there and say that we can't even drive our cars like this because it's not functional at all. I still see numerous cars everywhere this low and lower that function well enough to have fun on the street/track and look good while doing it. Would the car have more grip if it ran wider tires? Sure. Would the car be more functional if it were a bit higher? Possibly. Would it perform better with smaller wheels in general? Probably.

But the car was built to his taste. One of the biggest things people rave about the car is how easy it is to slide. Not a lot of grip on the rear tires. Some of us want to keep that aspect but still want to obtain a specific look, which is why we change the wheels/height accordingly. If we bumped up to a 255 on the rear on the larger wheels, a lot of that character would be gone. There would be so much more grip.

Some of us don't want to constantly change wheels either. I have 17x9 RPF1s coming in and am still staying with 215/45s for it. The car still only makes 160whp. Once the power has been increased from various changes, I'll be able to step up in tire size (probably a 235/40) and still be able to keep the same wheels.

My car is lower than some people might like, and my tire/wheel fitment and alignment may not be to everybody's liking, but when I'm on the track having fun enjoying my setup, for some reason, I seem to not give a flying fuck about anybody else's opinion.

It is what it is. People build cars for certain reasons. Some people want pure function. Some people are willing to compromise a bit of that for particular taste. It'll always be that way. Hellaflush isn't going anywhere though. It was around long before the internet bandwagon sensation took off.

"No matter how hard you try, you can't stop us now"

[DylanFRS]

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

Hellaflush isn't going anywhere though. It was around long before the internet bandwagon sensation took off.

I don't know about that. It is still a trend and like all trends, people will move on to something else at some point.

[TylerLieberman]

Originally Posted by DylanFRS

I don't know about that. It is still a trend and like all trends, people will move on to something else at some point.

The only thing I can see happening is all of the media coverage from all types of events being those types of cars. The hype will die down, and some people will move on. But there some people who will stay all for it and the cars will still be there

[strat61caster]

You don't see many of these around now, the fad will pass, some guys will stick with it, most will move on. The cults will continue like donks or lowriders or bombers or mini trucks or whatever but it will fade as most fads do.

[bestwheelbase]

Interesting to read @TylerLieberman "handles well enough to have fun while looking good" along with @Draco-REX "making small adjustments to fine-tune the street feel" methodologies.

Compliance is a word that comes to mind.

[bestwheelbase]

@strat61caster did you just post THE FIST?!

Bold.

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by bestwheelbase

@strat61caster did you just post THE FIST?!

Bold.

been awhile since i've seen a pic of that car

nostalgia

[bestwheelbase]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

been awhile since i've seen a pic of that car

nostalgia

This past weekend, while having brunch with SavetheWheels, that movie came up in conversation. We all had a good laugh. That whole franchise is terrible.

[Atticus808]

hellaflush = hellastupid

[TylerLieberman]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

You don't see many of these around now, the fad will pass, some guys will stick with it, most will move on. The cults will continue like donks or lowriders or bombers or mini trucks or whatever but it will fade as most fads do.

Lol while that car is not longer "cool" today, being an 8 year old kid getting dropped off and picked up from school in this thing was probably one of the most memorable moments from my childhood. That car was fun to ride in. Definitely more than just show. IIRC, it was making just under 570whp.

[BoostJunkie]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

You don't see many of these around now, the fad will pass, some guys will stick with it, most will move on. The cults will continue like donks or lowriders or bombers or mini trucks or whatever but it will fade as most fads do.

Are you saying the riceness or the supra itself as a fad will pass?

[TylerLieberman]

Originally Posted by BoostJunkie

Are you saying the riceness or the supra itself as a fad will pass?

i think hes referring to the style of the build. the loud and flamboyant modifications. it'll never fully die. there are still people out there that are into it and so long as there are cars and aftermarket parts, cars of similar fashion will always be around.

the fad now is to have a super low car with ridiculous camber and rocket bunny everything.

a lot people just build cars for internet fame these days. too worried about what everybody else will like and not so much as to what they like themselves.


"we spend a bunch of money we don't have to buy parts we don't need to impress people we don't know"

^i always loved that quote.