What will happen to the aftermarket for this car after the engine bump? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

enjoi23 · 10-12-2013, 03:23 AM

I was wondering one day about our cars. We all know eventually, there's going to be a better version with a bigger engine/or a turbo or something similar. My question is, what will happen to the aftermarket for our 13'/14' cars when the new model comes out with this? Will they still develop aftermarket parts for our cars, or move on to the new engine'd fr-s/brz?

This might be a dumb thing to ask, but I was just curious. This is the first car I've bought and have done these sort of modifications to, so I'm not familiar with what happens after a couple years. It amazes me that the aftermarket for this car became so huge so fast in the first place!

n0m0h0s · 10-12-2013, 03:31 AM

Lets hope the FA20 is not the honda D series of scion frs....

suaveflooder · 10-12-2013, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by enjoi23

I was wondering one day about our cars. We all know eventually, there's going to be a better version with a bigger engine/or a turbo or something similar. My question is, what will happen to the aftermarket for our 13'/14' cars when the new model comes out with this? Will they still develop aftermarket parts for our cars, or move on to the new engine'd fr-s/brz?

This might be a dumb thing to ask, but I was just curious. This is the first car I've bought and have done these sort of modifications to, so I'm not familiar with what happens after a couple years. It amazes me that the aftermarket for this car became so huge so fast in the first place!

They already have a TON of kick ass power options. What more could you want?

Headers, exhaust, tunes, superchargers, turbos, intakes ect. I'm not saying there couldn't be more, but with all those in just a little over a year over production has me not only impressed, but happy that I can stay busy with a 300+ horspower car and many ways to get there.

I think a bigger engine could possibly stop the engine from going further (cams, stroker, ext), but we have some great options so far that I don't see going away.

Miniata · 10-12-2013, 07:59 AM

I don't think aftermarket support for our cars would go away if a hotter engine is put in the twins in a year or three. Look at the Miata for example. When they came out in 1990 they had a 1.6L engine making 116 hp. In 94 Mazda put a 1.8L engine in the Miata making another 12 hp, and the hp went up again in 1996 and again in 1999. There is still plenty of aftermarket support for the early 1.6L engines in the Miata, 20 years since they last put that engine in the Miata. I don't think we have anything to worry about. If there is a demand for parts, companies will make them for us.

Shagaliscious · 10-12-2013, 10:33 AM

Wow. Ok, the articles i've read said that the Scion FR-S IS NOT getting the power increase. Only the Toyota 86 will be getting it.

Where are people reading that the Scion FR-S is also getting the power increase? Please post a link.

Flat Black VW · 10-12-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Shagaliscious

Wow. Ok, the articles i've read said that the Scion FR-S IS NOT getting the power increase. Only the Toyota 86 will be getting it.

Where are people reading that the Scion FR-S is also getting the power increase? Please post a link.

The impression I got from the OP was not that it is coming and there is evidence, but more of an "obviously at some point there will be more power"

If this car lasts more than a few years then surely it will get a power increase at some point.

thill · 10-12-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by suaveflooder

They already have a TON of kick ass power options. What more could you want?

Headers, exhaust, tunes, superchargers, turbos, intakes ect. I'm not saying there couldn't be more, but with all those in just a little over a year over production has me not only impressed, but happy that I can stay busy with a 300+ horspower car and many ways to get there.

I think a bigger engine could possibly stop the engine from going further (cams, stroker, ext), but we have some great options so far that I don't see going away.

This! There is so much out now. Much more than many other cars that have been out longer. And it is not like this magical new engine will be out tomorrow. Most likely we won't see it until mid-cycle refresh which is not for a few more years. That means lots more global sales of the FT86.

I won't lie. It is tempting to drive down the street to Full Blown Motor with about $6K in my pocket.. But I keep telling myself that stock is good enough for now...

Dipstik-sportech · 10-12-2013, 12:51 PM

My theory; stock is boring, I like to make my vehicles unique. I've NEVER owned a stock vehicle and I've had quite a few.

whaap · 10-12-2013, 01:11 PM

What car can you think of that hasn't made improvements as model years progressed. It's just part of owning a car. If you keep waiting for what's coming out better next year you'll never buy a car.

FRSure · 10-12-2013, 01:44 PM

If the FRS get a midyear refresh on the engine, I hope the redline stays the same.

CajunFRS · 10-12-2013, 03:04 PM

If they come out with a powertrain slightly different and it proves to be poop. Our cars will definitely in a good spot.

soundman98 · 10-12-2013, 04:00 PM

but aren't all the powertrain increases just rumors at this point? i don't believe i've understood any of it to be confirmed as factual yet..

and with the looming fleet mpg standards coming up, i'm not sure that toyota/subaru is willing to up the engine size at the cost of their fleet average for such a low production car...

thill · 10-12-2013, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by soundman98

but aren't all the powertrain increases just rumors at this point? i don't believe i've understood any of it to be confirmed as factual yet..

and with the looming fleet mpg standards coming up, i'm not sure that toyota/subaru is willing to up the engine size at the cost of their fleet average for such a low production car...

Yes, nothing is confirmed. There has been several rumors but that is it. I suspect we are a good 18 months away or more before we get anything factual.

Dipstik-sportech · 10-12-2013, 04:55 PM

What if they downsize it and add a turbo ala ford ecoboost?

10-12-2013, 07:59 AM	#4
Miniata Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 13 BRZ - 90 Miata - 07 FXT -05 Mini Location: Ohio Posts: 546 Thanks: 6 Thanked 142 Times in 105 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't think aftermarket support for our cars would go away if a hotter engine is put in the twins in a year or three. Look at the Miata for example. When they came out in 1990 they had a 1.6L engine making 116 hp. In 94 Mazda put a 1.8L engine in the Miata making another 12 hp, and the hp went up again in 1996 and again in 1999. There is still plenty of aftermarket support for the early 1.6L engines in the Miata, 20 years since they last put that engine in the Miata. I don't think we have anything to worry about. If there is a demand for parts, companies will make them for us. __________________ 17x7 Kosei K1-TS w/ 215/45-17 Dunlop Star Specs Nameless Track Pipe - Strano front sway bar

10-12-2013, 12:51 PM	#8
Dipstik-sportech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ satin white pearl sportech Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Canada Posts: 1,813 Thanks: 842 Thanked 911 Times in 576 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My theory; stock is boring, I like to make my vehicles unique. I've NEVER owned a stock vehicle and I've had quite a few. __________________ 2013 SWP BRZ sportech. 11.11sec@129.01mph, 511whp on e70. FullBlown base kit, FullBlown built 9.5:1 engine, GTX3076R GEN2 turbo, 1700cc Bosch injectors, FullBlown flex fuel kit, FullBlown radiator and oil cooler, FullBlown custom 3" dual exit exhaust, act xtreme clutch, whiteline diff and subframe inserts, BC Racing coilovers, hotchkiss 18mm rear sway, is300 3.73 differential ... Never finished

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soundman98 ProCrastinationConsultant Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: '14 Ranger, '18 Tacoma 4Dr LB Location: chicago-ish Posts: 11,330 Thanks: 35,240 Thanked 13,675 Times in 6,782 Posts Mentioned: 98 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	but aren't all the powertrain increases just rumors at this point? i don't believe i've understood any of it to be confirmed as factual yet.. and with the looming fleet mpg standards coming up, i'm not sure that toyota/subaru is willing to up the engine size at the cost of their fleet average for such a low production car... __________________ "The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time"

10-12-2013, 04:55 PM	#14
Dipstik-sportech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ satin white pearl sportech Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Canada Posts: 1,813 Thanks: 842 Thanked 911 Times in 576 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What if they downsize it and add a turbo ala ford ecoboost? __________________ 2013 SWP BRZ sportech. 11.11sec@129.01mph, 511whp on e70. FullBlown base kit, FullBlown built 9.5:1 engine, GTX3076R GEN2 turbo, 1700cc Bosch injectors, FullBlown flex fuel kit, FullBlown radiator and oil cooler, FullBlown custom 3" dual exit exhaust, act xtreme clutch, whiteline diff and subframe inserts, BC Racing coilovers, hotchkiss 18mm rear sway, is300 3.73 differential ... Never finished

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10-12-2013, 03:31 AM	#2
n0m0h0s Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: #2148 frs 10 series Location: Oakland. CA Posts: 57 Thanks: 30 Thanked 18 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Lets hope the FA20 is not the honda D series of scion frs....

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FRSure Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: Toyota Location: VA Posts: 583 Thanks: 183 Thanked 121 Times in 78 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	If the FRS get a midyear refresh on the engine, I hope the redline stays the same.

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