EVO First Drive Review of Toyota 86 - Calls it Brilliant!

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only thing now is to wait 5-7 months

[G-daddy]

Originally Posted by Aki

Your friends don't enjoy manual transmission cars then.

I hear people complaining about gear shifting in traffic yet live in rural areas areas, lol. I've been stuck an hour in downtown San Francisco, dealing with hills 'n such and not once did I ever think "this would be better/easier in an automatic."

The only thing that makes a manual tedious is if the clutch pedal is really stiff. The 86 pedal is light, so no such problem.

It's actually the opposite for me--I find automatic transmissions more tedious in stop and go, because automatics always want to move forward when you ease off the brake. Which means you have to press the brake down harder to stay stopped. Granted cars like BMW have an "auto hold" feature, but why bother?

Thank you. Exactly what I wanted to say to people who complain about driving stick in rush hour traffic. The difference between driving auto and stick is, for one you're on the brake pedal all the time; the other you're on the clutch a lot. Same amount of effort for the feet.

It baffles me for people who drive automatics on an enthusiast forum. You'd better be an amputee (or some other illness). Otherwise, seriously? It's not even DCT.

[Mari0]

Originally Posted by G-daddy

Thank you. Exactly what I wanted to say to people who complain about driving stick in rush hour traffic. The difference between driving auto and stick is, for one you're on the brake pedal all the time; the other you're on the clutch a lot. Same amount of effort for the feet.

It baffles me for people who drive automatics on an enthusiast forum. You'd better be an amputee (or some other illness). Otherwise, seriously? It's not even DCT.

To each their own I guess. Not saying that one is wrong and the other is right... but I've been driving a manual and I will be getting a manual FR-S

[random]

Originally Posted by G-daddy

The difference between driving auto and stick is, for one you're on the brake pedal all the time; the other you're on the clutch a lot. Same amount of effort for the feet.

There's no way it's the same effort: with an automatic, your left foot isn't operating a pedal. This is way