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Old 11-10-2011, 12:28 PM   #477
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:31 PM   #478
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I have fit 3 people in a 2 seater......2 fine women on the passenger side...Its do able..
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:35 PM   #479
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Does anybody know if the Manual transmission is directly shifted or with a linkage/hydraulics? You can't really tell from the pics.

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Old 11-10-2011, 12:55 PM   #480
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lol, looks like loads of space to me.
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We still haven't seen a comprehensive picture of the engine bay. The see-thru drawing just posted doesn't really show the boundaries of the engine bay, so at this point it's way too early to jump to conclusions about aftermarket fitments. I'm sure there'll be plenty of room, but that's just a guess.
you guys forget this pic?



now look at the aerial view and imagine adding the battery, steering rack, radiator and fan, fluid reservoirs, etc.
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Old 11-10-2011, 01:02 PM   #481
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Oh that's not true, I've fit 5 people in my car and it's classified as a 2+2.
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I have fit 3 people in a 2 seater......2 fine women on the passenger side...Its do able..
Not legally...or safely for that matter.


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you guys forget this pic?
Actually, that's the picture I had in mind when I wrote that. It's far too obtuse of an angle and cropped too tight to make a conclusive statement regarding available space, especially under the engine. We have no idea how exactly they shaped the firewall, oil pan, or exhaust manifolds, let alone where the radiator actually is, and if it's on an angle like the Miata. That said, the picture makes it look like there's about a foot of space between the intake manifold and the firewall. I'd call that a ton of space.
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been there done that hahha
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Not legally...or safely for that matter.
It's actually pretty comfortable back there. Not all 2+2s are there for show lol.
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Since I think I'm one of the few that actually bothers to look at the automatic >_>... currently based on like two or three reviews that actually drove the Subaru BRZ (erm test model), its most likely based on the Lexus IS transmission; however, it may be more likely be towards the IS350 (already a 6-speed transmission) than the IS-F. I can be hopeful and hope they bring more technology from the IS-F but mm... well depends on the overall cost of the car at the end, no?

Nevertheless, most of the reviews say they found it a nice automatic though one prefers the manual.
Sounds really promising! Thanks for the info Buggy51. Certainly do hope that the IS-F transmission tech trickles down into the FT86, heard that the shift times on that particular gearbox hits 200miliseconds, which is astonishing for an Auto.
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Actually, that's the picture I had in mind when I wrote that. It's far too obtuse of an angle and cropped too tight to make a conclusive statement regarding available space, especially under the engine. We have no idea how exactly they shaped the firewall, oil pan, or exhaust manifolds, let alone where the radiator actually is, and if it's on an angle like the Miata. That said, the picture makes it look like there's about a foot of space between the intake manifold and the firewall. I'd call that a ton of space.
yes, that pic alone is inconclusive. but now we have the aerial view diagram to cross reference with. to me, it looks much tighter than i had previously thought.
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Oh that's not true, I've fit 5 people in my car and it's classified as a 2+2.
location: Bronx

I now understand how you fit 5 people in 2+ 2

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I fit 5 people in a toyota tercel b4 too.. was a nightmare
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Not legally...or safely for that matter.




Actually, that's the picture I had in mind when I wrote that. It's far too obtuse of an angle and cropped too tight to make a conclusive statement regarding available space, especially under the engine. We have no idea how exactly they shaped the firewall, oil pan, or exhaust manifolds, let alone where the radiator actually is, and if it's on an angle like the Miata. That said, the picture makes it look like there's about a foot of space between the intake manifold and the firewall. I'd call that a ton of space.
LOL! They wore the seat belt. It was only around the corner. Don't get jealous. LOL!

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Sounds really promising! Thanks for the info Buggy51. Certainly do hope that the IS-F transmission tech trickles down into the FT86, heard that the shift times on that particular gearbox hits 200miliseconds, which is astonishing for an Auto.
Try 100 ms shifts

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The Lexus IS F features an 8-speed Sport Direct Shift (SPDS) automatic transmission with sequential shift which can lock-up the torque converter from 2nd through 8th gears (see also: Lexus IS transmission specifications). The SPDS is derived from the unit introduced in the 2007 Lexus LS, which was the first vehicle to carry an 8-speed transmission.[34] The SPDS allows for shifts to occur in 0.1 s (100 ms),[35] compared to 0.05 s (50 ms) of F1 race cars.[36] The wheel-mounted paddle shifters allow for gear shifting while steering, and a manual mode can be selected for added control. The 8-speed transmission also improves fuel economy,[37] with lower overall consumption than BMW, Mercedes, and Audi rivals,[35][37] and avoidance of the U.S. Gas Guzzler Tax.[38]
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Try 100 ms shifts

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The Lexus IS F features an 8-speed Sport Direct Shift (SPDS) automatic transmission with sequential shift which can lock-up the torque converter from 2nd through 8th gears (see also: Lexus IS transmission specifications). The SPDS is derived from the unit introduced in the 2007 Lexus LS, which was the first vehicle to carry an 8-speed transmission.[34] The SPDS allows for shifts to occur in 0.1 s (100 ms),[35] compared to 0.05 s (50 ms) of F1 race cars.[36] The wheel-mounted paddle shifters allow for gear shifting while steering, and a manual mode can be selected for added control. The 8-speed transmission also improves fuel economy,[37] with lower overall consumption than BMW, Mercedes, and Audi rivals,[35][37] and avoidance of the U.S. Gas Guzzler Tax.[38]

OMG. That's SERIOUSLY fast for an Automatic!!
Any idea what 'Downshift spring control' means? ... Its on the most recent leaked spec sheet.
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