Innovate (Sprintex) Supercharger Owners Topic

[xxscaxx]

Originally Posted by mikalem

I know for the 75 with e85 mike can tune for stock fuel setup (its my config at the moment)

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I had planned on doing e85 on the non-intercooled kit prior to my purchase of the intercooler kit. But it never happened lol.

I think the non-ic kit will be happier on e85 than pump imho.

[mikalem]

Originally Posted by xxscaxx

I had planned on doing e85 on the non-intercooled kit prior to my purchase of the intercooler kit. But it never happened lol.

I think the non-ic kit will be happier on e85 than pump imho.

As a guy living it, I completely agree!

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[Xero-Limit]

We have done e85 on stock injectors no problem. We recommend the injectors and pump because it gives you more headroom. You have to bear in mind that we were not contracted to develop a CARB tune, so for this reason we can customize things to whatever people have.

70 on pump non-intercooled on 93 works. 91 stick with the 72.5 or 75mm. On e85 the 70mm really shines....you just need enough ethanol in there to cool the charge down, so in reality even e30 is enough to see the gains from the 70mm. Currently I'm finding myself between e40-e60 running flex fuel and it is super quick just on that. E85 is more HP on but on the 70 that's pushing the stock clutch right now.

[mikalem]

Originally Posted by moto-mike

We have done e85 on stock injectors no problem. We recommend the injectors and pump because it gives you more headroom. You have to bear in mind that we were not contracted to develop a CARB tune, so for this reason we can customize things to whatever people have.

70 on pump non-intercooled on 93 works. 91 stick with the 72.5 or 75mm. On e85 the 70mm really shines....you just need enough ethanol in there to cool the charge down, so in reality even e30 is enough to see the gains from the 70mm. Currently I'm finding myself between e40-e60 running flex fuel and it is super quick just on that. E85 is more HP on but on the 70 that's pushing the stock clutch right now.

On your non IC tune can you flip out from the 75 to the 70 without a retune? Making a checklist....

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[Xero-Limit]

Originally Posted by mikalem

On your non IC tune can you flip out from the 75 to the 70 without a retune? Making a checklist....

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Right now we can do via mapswitching. So it will default for the 70mm, but if you flip to a map it will do the 75. You can always run the 75 pulley on the 70 tune. You'll be down about 5-8 hp from the straight 75mm tune though.

[Area86]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

That is great that Abbey was able to engineer a IAT sensor that works. The FA20club IAT sensor plate failed horribly as the sensor was reading the temp of the plate and not the air...

As long as your IAT sensor being in the direct airflow of only one runner does not cause too much airflow difference in that runner it should be perfect. I guess as long as the car is tuned afterwards it should be fine.

Wow I didn't know the the Fa20club plate was not good. I've been running it since I installed my kit and haven't noticed any issues. I do plan on going back to the stock MAF sensor when I get the updated tune from @DeliciousTuning and just using the plate as a boost source for my aem failsafe.

Does anyone know if I can run a non intercooled tune with a intercooler installed? I want to install my intercooler this weekend and I am still waiting for the updated tune. I thought I remember reading that you can but i want to make sure first.

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by moto-mike

Right now we can do via mapswitching. So it will default for the 70mm, but if you flip to a map it will do the 75. You can always run the 75 pulley on the 70 tune. You'll be down about 5-8 hp from the straight 75mm tune though.

Interesting, I didn't know this. Thankfully I haven't been switching pulleys. Just to confirm, we have been tuning mine for the 70MM, correct?

Originally Posted by moto-mike

We have done e85 on stock injectors no problem. We recommend the injectors and pump because it gives you more headroom. You have to bear in mind that we were not contracted to develop a CARB tune, so for this reason we can customize things to whatever people have.

70 on pump non-intercooled on 93 works. 91 stick with the 72.5 or 75mm. On e85 the 70mm really shines....you just need enough ethanol in there to cool the charge down, so in reality even e30 is enough to see the gains from the 70mm. Currently I'm finding myself between e40-e60 running flex fuel and it is super quick just on that. E85 is more HP on but on the 70 that's pushing the stock clutch right now.

speaking of flex fuel.. are they in stock? how long of a wait for all black fittings?

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by Area86

I've been running it since I installed my kit and haven't noticed any issues.

You won't "notice" anything unless you track your IAT temps from the sensor. You will see that the sensor heats up as the engine heats up and it will not read the temp of the actual air in the runners but instead the heat that the manifold soaks up from the rest of the engine.

[Area86]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

You won't "notice" anything unless you track your IAT temps from the sensor. You will see that the sensor heats up as the engine heats up and it will not read the temp of the actual air in the runners but instead the heat that the manifold soaks up from the rest of the engine.

Ok I get what you are saying. I monitor the temps on my torque app and that makes sense now because thats pretty much what I see. Would I be able to remove it without a retune?

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[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by Area86

Ok I get what you are saying. I monitor the temps on my torque app and that makes sense now because thats pretty much what I see. Would I be able to remove it without a retune?

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Check with your tuner. It is dependent on the tune strategy used around the sensor.

If the tune gets conservative as the temp increases then your timing is being pulled back as the sensor warms up with the engine.

[Xero-Limit]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

Interesting, I didn't know this. Thankfully I haven't been switching pulleys. Just to confirm, we have been tuning mine for the 70MM, correct?



speaking of flex fuel.. are they in stock? how long of a wait for all black fittings?

We got you on the 70 so all good.

For flex fuel we just got our order of fittings today after a two week delay! We have ONE set of all black not yet spoken for, then enough for five of the black/silver.

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by moto-mike

We got you on the 70 so all good.

For flex fuel we just got our order of fittings today after a two week delay! We have ONE set of all black not yet spoken for, then enough for five of the black/silver.

dammit mike. gimme the black. order incoming.

Edit: actually, i'm going to hold off to make sure the E85 fine tuning doesn't run into any issues first. hopefully you'll still have that black set at the end of the weekend once we've had a chance to tweak it.

[NickFRS]

Originally Posted by moto-mike

We have done e85 on stock injectors no problem. We recommend the injectors and pump because it gives you more headroom. You have to bear in mind that we were not contracted to develop a CARB tune, so for this reason we can customize things to whatever people have.

70 on pump non-intercooled on 93 works. 91 stick with the 72.5 or 75mm. On e85 the 70mm really shines....you just need enough ethanol in there to cool the charge down, so in reality even e30 is enough to see the gains from the 70mm. Currently I'm finding myself between e40-e60 running flex fuel and it is super quick just on that. E85 is more HP on but on the 70 that's pushing the stock clutch right now.

I have the ACT street prolite kit. So no worries on the clutch. Already have the non intercooled kit tuned on 92 oct. Just thinking about throwing the 70mm on with a 3bar and running E85. Is it possible with stock injectors and pump? Also would it max out the stock MAF in the stock airbox? My Current tuner has concerns.


@PRE-Erich

[Xero-Limit]

Originally Posted by NickFRS

I have the ACT street prolite kit. So no worries on the kit. Already have the non intercooled kit tuned on 92 oct. Just thinking about throwing the 70mm on with a 3bar and running E85. Is it possible with stock injectors and pump? Also would it max out the stock MAF int he stock airbox?

@Erich-PRE

Ok, so you're good on the clutch. Our clutch was letting go on e85 in the colder weather. We dyno'd 285 in hot weather. On the 70mm. 3 bar will be OK on non-intercooled, but not once you put the IC in there.

Yes, possible stock injectors and pump.

Stock MAF will be right a the limit. The CEL threshold will need to be raised a bit, but you don't want it too close to 5v as you won't know when you do then.

Perrin 3" MAF CAI is a great on this setup. We also have our custom 3" warm air setup with an oversize filter, and that works just fine as it sits right at the opening just about (very similar to JRSC)