FULL FR-S / FT-86 TRAINING MANUAL revealed

[Longhorn248]

Originally Posted by djdnz

Can you guys tell me what page you're seeing fender kits on? Maybe I've missed it every time I've skimmed through the images?

I don't think they're fender kits. Based on the images it looks as though the fenders on the TRD version are different than the regular spec car.

[Ikaros]

So this sound pipe thing, what exactly does it do? Does it bring the sound to the cabin or amplify the sound that's heard on the outside?

[spin9k]

It supposedly takes the tractor-like sound of the boxer engine and makes it sweet sounding by 'tuning' a port from the engine bay and bringing it into the cabin to 'adjust' the natural sound from the engine. (don't start, just my opinion on the sound after living with a sweet rotary note )

[old greg]

Originally Posted by spin9k

don't start, just my opinion on the sound after living with a sweet rotary note

I won't argue with you. Hell, you should hear my car on cold mornings before it comes up to operating temp. It really does sound like freaking diesel tractor.

[Chokonen888]

Originally Posted by Longhorn248

I don't think they're fender kits. Based on the images it looks as though the fenders on the TRD version are different than the regular spec car.

LOL, and this is how rumors start....

I read Japanese and I don't see anywhere it says the headlights are not interchangeable or there are different fenders. There are a few "Fender Garnishes" being offered but that appears to be just a tack on piece that fits over the vent area on the fenders.

[Longhorn248]

Originally Posted by Chokonen888

LOL, and this is how rumors start....

I read Japanese and I don't see anywhere it says the headlights are not interchangeable or there are different fenders. There are a few "Fender Garnishes" being offered but that appears to be just a tack on piece that fits over the vent area on the fenders.

We're talking about the rear fenders, the fronts look pretty much the same to me...but maybe it's just the color of the cars and the lighting accents.

[Chokonen888]

Originally Posted by Longhorn248

We're talking about the rear fenders, the fronts look pretty much the same to me...but maybe it's just the color of the cars and the lighting accents.

You're probably right about it just being the color/lighting. I can see how one might think they look different but there is no mention of front or rear fenders being different in the text.

[Longhorn248]

Originally Posted by Chokonen888

You're probably right about it just being the color/lighting. I can see how one might think they look different but there is no mention of front or rear fenders being different in the text.

I guess we'll find out in less than two weeks!

[Chokonen888]

Originally Posted by Longhorn248

I guess we'll find out in less than two weeks!

Well if they were different I it would definitely be in this training manual so I doubt they are but as you said, well see. I Just hope they have this thing in the test drive area! Toyota is listed as having cars there...

[DivZero]

Toyota if you're reading, the following are things I absolutely want :

1. Track stripped model (the one without painted bumpers, nice wheels, no sun roof, etc)

2. Smaller steering wheel with same OEM functionality (i.e. 330mm)

3. Harness compatible seats

4. Dare I say TRD weld in roll cage? I think I just did.


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[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by Godzilla35

i just caught myself complaining that it's too blurry... then i realized, i don't know japanese anyways, so doesn't matter, lol.

the fender thing is forsure or implied?
I wish we could have an outline of options that could be filled in as people start to make out what it says. But then again, might be a waste since this is a JDM only manual I guess?

I can't read the staff manual.

Originally Posted by oneday

Does any of the literature discuss gear ratios? Trying to confirm what I read somewhere on the interwebs, that the FT86s 6MT was also from the IS250 (makes perfect sense)...if that is the case, here are the ratios and top speed in each gear:

1st: 3.79 / 39 mph
2nd: 2.28 / 66 mph
3rd: 1.52 / 98 mph
4th: 1.19 / 134 mph
5th: 1.00 / 150 mph
6th: 0.79 / 189 mph
(R: 3.47)
FD: 3.73

Nope. The IS250 uses a different gearbox. The one we suspect is similar to the JDM Altezza gearbox and is also used by Mazda and was used in the S15 and S2000.

Originally Posted by DivZero

Toyota if you're reading, the following are things I absolutely want :

1. Track stripped model (the one without painted bumpers, nice wheels, no sun roof, etc)

2. Smaller steering wheel with same OEM functionality (i.e. 330mm)

3. Harness compatible seats

4. Dare I say TRD weld in roll cage? I think I just did.


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^Good post.

[Polish Person]

I thought everyone was saying that the front fenders on the TRD were different as compared to the standard version of the car, but since someone a few posts up redirected me to the rear, it seems now that the TRD has the same rear fenders as the BRZ STi. Maybe it's just me, but the BRZ STi does have much more aggressive rear fenders, compared to the smooth FR-S/FT-86 ones, right?

Or has lighting been messing with the that hard this whole time.

[Godzilla35]

great... that's what I thought... what company making a $20K car has different fender options? I thought it was just lost in translation.

+1 on the BRZ statement ^above... The STI concept does seem to have more aggressive side / rear... but the front looks gross (imho). But then again, we're comparing a real / live concept car in HD picture and video... to a scanned / phone-photo tiny picture of a training manual ...

2 weeks more guys... then the cards will be on the table (hopefully every card - pricing, availability, international info, etc.)...

[Matador]

Originally Posted by DivZero

Toyota if you're reading, the following are things I absolutely want :

1. Track stripped model (the one without painted bumpers, nice wheels, no sun roof, etc)

2. Smaller steering wheel with same OEM functionality (i.e. 330mm)

3. Harness compatible seats

4. Dare I say TRD weld in roll cage? I think I just did.


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Whoa, thanks for your amazing contribution.

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

Nope. The IS250 uses a different gearbox. The one we suspect is similar to the JDM Altezza gearbox and is also used by Mazda and was used in the S15 and S2000.

Yup. And Even if it did, it certainly wouldn't mean that it would use the same ratios.

Originally Posted by Gardus

I wouldn't fit TRD brakes anyway, too expensive and after all, I live 100 km or so from the Brembo factory near Milan...

I think we'll just need to fit better trackpads and maybe braided lines and high performance oil, the usual stuff.

One of the good thing of a light, not too powerful car is that it's light on brakes and tyres.
The Clio 3 RS with the same power and weight has the Brembo as standard by the way, so do other cars like the Cooper S JCW, the Grande Punto Abarth Essesse...
The stock "junior" Brembo 4 pots are becoming very popular and inexpensive.

Well not all of us have that luxury. That being said, can you stroll up and get factory discount prices on discs and Calipers?