MCA Suspension. Anyone have them on their 86? - Page 6 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Captain Snooze · 04-10-2013, 11:50 PM

^lol. love it.

Nardi330 · 04-11-2013, 01:38 AM

AFAIK they are manufactured in house in QLD.

Walldodger · 04-11-2013, 01:55 AM

Advantage of being local, there's no import tax for spending over $1000. I've been doing the rounds emailing suspension producers asking questions too. I've only had replies from Australian producers. *shrugs shoulders*

Captain Snooze · 04-11-2013, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nardi330

AFAIK they are manufactured in house in QLD.

Not true. They are manufactured in the shed behind the house.

coyote · 04-11-2013, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

Not true. They are manufactured in the shed behind the house.

Shed is in front of house.

Priorities == Sorted.

Captain Snooze · 04-11-2013, 02:20 AM

Hey Coyote. Have you done a write up of the reds? If not would you like to give your impressions?

coyote · 04-11-2013, 02:36 AM

They are good. Get them.

Fizz · 04-11-2013, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nardi330

AFAIK they are manufactured in house in QLD.

Perhaps im wrong but I was told by a mate from the Evo community up in Qld that only the gold series are manufactured in house.

The reds are manufactured overseas in components and assembled in house.

The blues are fully manufactured overseas to MCA's specification.

Just sayin' what I was told....so dont shoot me....perhaps MCA could clarify this?

eckoflyte · 04-11-2013, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fizz

Perhaps im wrong but I was told by a mate from the Evo community up in Qld that only the gold series are manufactured in house.

The reds are manufactured overseas in components and assembled in house.

The blues are fully manufactured overseas to MCA's specification.

Just sayin' what I was told....so dont shoot me....perhaps MCA could clarify this?

I've heard similar about the RED series. Was told the components, at least the complete shock housing, top mounts, and spring, is sourced from taiwan. I believe the NMB pillowball is German. The valving and assembly is inhouse. The internal shock components (shims, needle, piston, oil) I am not sure if thats in house or overseas. If MCA could clarify that would be great.

coyote · 04-11-2013, 08:14 PM

If anyone wants to know something specific about these, post a question and I'll give you my opinion.

Pretending to be a motoring journo is not my thing. I don't read their shit anyway.

86•BRZ · 04-11-2013, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coyote

If anyone wants to know something specific about these, post a question and I'll give you my opinion.

Pretending to be a motoring journo is not my thing. I don't read their shit anyway.

You're just playing hard to get! it's not hard to give an impression of how they feel, that's all people want. just say "it corners like it's on rails, man" and they will be happy!

tisb0b · 04-11-2013, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coyote

If anyone wants to know something specific about these, post a question and I'll give you my opinion.

Pretending to be a motoring journo is not my thing. I don't read their shit anyway.

What improvements have you noticed from the stock suspension and any negatives?

86drift · 04-11-2013, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fizz

Perhaps im wrong but I was told by a mate from the Evo community up in Qld that only the gold series are manufactured in house.

The reds are manufactured overseas in components and assembled in house.

The blues are fully manufactured overseas to MCA's specification.

Just sayin' what I was told....so dont shoot me....perhaps MCA could clarify this?

You're basically correct. This is the reason Gold's are $7k+ and Reds are $2.8k.
So, for the extra $300 that you pay for Blues over BCs you get suspension that has been setup by the best in the business and track tuned by some of our best drivers.

coyote · 04-11-2013, 11:25 PM

The 6kg springs are better damped than the soft factory springs were, but there's the compromise.

6kg in this car is too stiff for a good ride on crap city roads. I reckon it's about right for blasting a back road, but too soft for sticky tyres on the track. On the highway the damping and rate is just heaven, but mine wanders a bit due to an aggressive alignment.

The nose bobs a bit like a Porsche, but that's also spring rates and does not relate to the quality of the shocks, just selection of a rate.

It's like posting a picture of a low car and everyone asking "what's it dropped on?". It's doesn't matter. Low can be achieved with an oxy torch.

The damping is seriously fantastic in that the spring control on both compression and rebound is wonderful. I think it it as comfortable as a 6kg spring could be in this car, but anyone who says it rides "like stock" has their hand on it.

It does not thump, but NVH is certainly increased. You can't take away a bunch of soft rubber and not have that happen. There is no crashing, but there's also less travel over similar bumps.

There is less dive under brakes, but it still seems to put power down at least as well as stock. There is MUCH less understeer on turn in and more ultimate grip mid corner, but that's a combination of better shocks and better alignment (which is partially a function of the adjustability afforded by this kit.

There is bags more "feel" for the road and what the tyres are doing.

In short: They are good. Get them.

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Nardi330 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Drives: 86 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 2,168 Thanks: 287 Thanked 374 Times in 264 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	AFAIK they are manufactured in house in QLD.

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Walldodger Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: Four wheels, two seats, etc Location: Queensland Posts: 80 Thanks: 23 Thanked 63 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Advantage of being local, there's no import tax for spending over $1000. I've been doing the rounds emailing suspension producers asking questions too. I've only had replies from Australian producers. shrugs shoulders

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Captain Snooze Because compromise ® Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Red Herring Location: australia Posts: 7,819 Thanks: 4,050 Thanked 9,553 Times in 4,196 Posts Mentioned: 60 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hey Coyote. Have you done a write up of the reds? If not would you like to give your impressions?

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coyote Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: Slowly Location: brisbane.qld.au Posts: 1,064 Thanks: 212 Thanked 539 Times in 235 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	They are good. Get them.

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04-11-2013, 11:25 PM	#84
coyote Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: Slowly Location: brisbane.qld.au Posts: 1,064 Thanks: 212 Thanked 539 Times in 235 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	The 6kg springs are better damped than the soft factory springs were, but there's the compromise. 6kg in this car is too stiff for a good ride on crap city roads. I reckon it's about right for blasting a back road, but too soft for sticky tyres on the track. On the highway the damping and rate is just heaven, but mine wanders a bit due to an aggressive alignment. The nose bobs a bit like a Porsche, but that's also spring rates and does not relate to the quality of the shocks, just selection of a rate. It's like posting a picture of a low car and everyone asking "what's it dropped on?". It's doesn't matter. Low can be achieved with an oxy torch. The damping is seriously fantastic in that the spring control on both compression and rebound is wonderful. I think it it as comfortable as a 6kg spring could be in this car, but anyone who says it rides "like stock" has their hand on it. It does not thump, but NVH is certainly increased. You can't take away a bunch of soft rubber and not have that happen. There is no crashing, but there's also less travel over similar bumps. There is less dive under brakes, but it still seems to put power down at least as well as stock. There is MUCH less understeer on turn in and more ultimate grip mid corner, but that's a combination of better shocks and better alignment (which is partially a function of the adjustability afforded by this kit. There is bags more "feel" for the road and what the tyres are doing. In short: They are good. Get them.

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