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01-11-2010, 01:46 PM | #1 |
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Any cars debuting at Detroit NAIAS a competitor for FT-86?
So I see the Detroit NAIAS just started. Anyone know of any cars being introduced at the show this week that could be a competitor to the FT-86?
Its too bad the FT86 won't itself be at the show. |
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I guess the FT will be shown at either the Chicago or New York show?
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01-11-2010, 10:37 PM | #3 |
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Hopefully NY. It will probably be at the TAS hence why it isn't in the motor city.
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01-11-2010, 11:08 PM | #4 |
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as far as ive seen so far the closest competitors are the 2012 focus and jetta coupe concept...maybe that pugeot convertible
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Isn't Ford Fiesta wasn't there?
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I'll predict geneva auto show will see something more about maybe the production, don't hold me on this I just have a feeling+its a toyota europe design development is the concept creator so maybe. |
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Coyote Mustang. omg i want that car. 400 hp & 25 MPG
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To answer the OP's question, I haven't seen any new cars at Detroit that really compete with the FT-86. The CR-Z might be the closest thing? But that car is a porker for its low powered engine (122hp / 128tq) and doesn't even get good gas mileage for a hybrid. What a disappointment that car was for the enthusiast Wonder how long it'll be before we start seeing all the direct FT-86 competitors rumored to be in the works (Nissan 240sx / Silvia) |
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http://www.insideline.com/audi/audi-...-are-hazy.html
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/12/d...production-r4/ While not exactly a competitior to the FT-86 due to the price, weight, and mid-engine layout for some reason I like the Audi e-tron detroit concept. It's 2976lbs with a wheelbase of 95.6 inches. The production version will be called the R4 and will probably come with a turbo 4 or the turbo inline 5 from the ttr-s mounted mid ship. No mention of whether it will be RWD or AWD, but knowing Audi, quattro awd will definately be an option at some point. Think of it like a baby R8. There are a lot of wild rumors about it possibly slotting in under the Audi TT and being priced in the low 30k usd. It's still heavy though. Last edited by zigzagz94; 01-12-2010 at 11:08 PM. |
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imo, the closest competitor to the FT86 for the first few years will probably only be the Miata.
Sure there's a couple of fronter's coming out, but I don't consider different drivetrains as 'direct' competitors. I almost guarantee that Nissan will not allow Toyota to soak up all the glory in this market segment. They'll do something about it sooner than later. |
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http://www.insideline.com/volkswagen...bluesport.html Also I think this is being mandated by the VW overlords who are intent on building their Bluesport concept car which along with the rumored "entry level" sub boxster/cayman neo 914 porsche will be built on the same platform. Basically VW wanted a small mid-engined sportscar and in order to justify the R&D costs they have forced versions on both Audi and Porsche. At least that is what I was told. Quote:
Notice the vw bluesport concept was RWD, around 2600lbs, and had similar dimensions to the FT-86. Of course that was a convertible and this Audi version would be a coupe which may or may not get a quattro awd version. All too early to tell. But the OP was asking for any competitors from the Detroit show and this is probably the closest thing. I do agree that Nissan will not let this afront stand for too long: apparently the nissan urge concept from 2006 has been spotted again recently... http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/13/2...ed-on-trailer/ And just to be clear I'm still buying an FT-86. Last edited by zigzagz94; 01-13-2010 at 10:51 PM. |
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I believe the closest car competing with the FT-86 will be the BMW Z2 coming out in 2012.
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