PC Build Thread

[WingsofWar]

Hey all, i found some more scraps at my cousins house that i thought was decent technology so i picked it up.

2x 1G Corsair PC3200 DDR400 Ram sticks
LGA775 Pentium 4 HT 670 3.8ghz

So a quick question, i noticed that some LGA775 motherboards use a higher FSB for dual core processors and DDR2 or DDR3 ram. With my Pentium 4 having only a 800mhz FSB, will it be compatible with the newer/recent LGA775 motherboards even with the higher rated FSB?

I mean id love to get like a $40-$50 LGA775 MOBO and a few RAM sticks and build a $100 PC that can run PS better than old rig that just blew up. If i can reuse this processor whats a good motherboard? what should i look for?

[n2oinferno]

It should. When they say they support higher fsb, it means they can go that high. You can always downclock. Easier to be backwards compatible than forwards compatible, like in the case of my old LGA775 board that didn't support Yorkfield CPUs.

Buy the cheapest motherboard you can find if you want to go this way. Don't worry about good, just worry about getting by until you can get something better. No reason to spend more money than necessary on ancient hardware. Spending 100 dollars here is half the cost of an i5 2500k.

[WingsofWar]

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

It should. When they say they support higher fsb, it means they can go that high. You can always downclock. Easier to be backwards compatible than forwards compatible, like in the case of my old LGA775 board that didn't support Yorkfield CPUs.

Buy the cheapest motherboard you can find if you want to go this way. Don't worry about good, just worry about getting by until you can get something better. No reason to spend more money than necessary on ancient hardware. Spending 100 dollars here is half the cost of an i5 2500k.

What about the Intel P43 and P45 and some g41 chipsets? i was reading that the newer boards didnt have any compatibility with LGA775 Pentium CPUs? why is this?

[serialk11r]

Oh dear, a P4...last time I used one of those I wanted to tear my hair out. I have a G33 board, and I think it's backwards compatible with all LGA775. But for even 30 bucks I wouldn't get one to stick an old prescott into. I'm fairly sure G41 boards should work...I agree with n2oinferno, if you want to take this route, go as cheap as possible.

[WingsofWar]

yeah i definitely want to super cheap because its going to be replaced soon. But i need working PC now with the parts i have.

I mean, if i could make P3 700mhz 1.5G SDRAM and a 128mb AGP video card run windows XP Professional and Photoshop CS4..and still build those photochops iv posted on here..Im pretty sure a small bump in performance would mean a world to me.That is the PC im coming from.

So anyway..i was thinking of this MOBO for $30...any good? has a P35 northbridge and ICH9 south bridge..and i read its the one of very few "newer" boards that still accept P4.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Biostar-P35D...a#ht_500wt_922

[n2oinferno]

I've had no issue with refurbs, but I'd definitely want to know what kind of warranty it has before I spend the money.

edit: nevermind, the G41 doesn't work, only supports 800 minimum. damn, that's old technology lol
That P35 board will work though.

[82mm 4g63]

If you can make a working rig using the parts you just acquired with that $30 motherboard, I say do it. With hardware that old the only thing you should be concerned about is if it is compatible, and it is. So I say buy it and don't spend another penny on it. Any more money spent on this thing and you're eating into your new rig's budget.

HOWEVER, If you're holding off until Black Friday for deals to build the NEW rig, I would say buy it(new rig) now. In all honesty that $45(including shipping) you're spending on an ancient motherboard will negate most/all savings you'd get from the BF deals, so why bother waiting? I really don't see you saving over $50 in BF deals with the rig we talked about. From my experience the deals are usually focused towards the high end processors and peripherals.

[Siriusly.Andrew]

October heralds the AMD Bulldozer architecture. That's going to be a significant change to AMD's units. I've noticed nothing but Intel jibberjabber in the last couple pages so I thought I'd just chime in :P And IMO, it's worth waiting to see if Bulldozer is everything it's hyped up to be -- because chances are it'll be cheaper than any Intel cheap (even if only marginally) and according to numerous reports, much faster.

"Bulldozer will be the first major redesign of AMD’s processor architecture since 2003, when the firm launched its Athlon 64/Opteron (K8) processors, and will feature two 128-bit FMA-capable FPUs which can be combined into one 256-bit FPU. This design is accompanied by two integer cores each with 4 pipelines (the fetch/decode stage is shared). Bulldozer will also introduce shared L2 cache in the new architecture. AMD calls this design a "Bulldozer module". A 16-core processor design would feature eight of these modules,[8] but the operating system will recognize each module as two physical cores.
The module, described as two cores, can be contrasted with a single Intel core with HyperThreading. The difference between the two approaches is that Bulldozer provides dedicated schedulers and integer units for each thread, whereas in Intel's core all threads must compete for available execution resources"

[Giccin]

Gief Budget. And what you want to keep. Also a link of what your tower looks like. I'll build you a media building pc. :>

Sorry took so long to make a post. Lol But after seeing this thread go on for so long.. with more information than needed.. it was time to step in and just throw out sets. Lol

[WingsofWar]

Originally Posted by Giccin

Gief Budget. And what you want to keep. Also a link of what your tower looks like. I'll build you a media building pc. :>

Sorry took so long to make a post. Lol But after seeing this thread go on for so long.. with more information than needed.. it was time to step in and just throw out sets. Lol

I guess you can say it looks kinda like this
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...635&CatId=1509

but its not a cooler master.

iv been reading up on so much computer stuff my head is going to explode...

i was even looking at my credit card earlier and was very tempted to use it and buy this shit.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...0998&CatId=336

but iv kept my composure, and i want to keep to a <$800 budget, or at least pretend that i will...

[Giccin]

Originally Posted by WingsofWar

I guess you can say it looks kinda like this
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...635&CatId=1509

but its not a cooler master.

iv been reading up on so much computer stuff my head is going to explode...

i was even looking at my credit card earlier and was very tempted to use it and buy this shit.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...0998&CatId=336

but iv kept my composure, and i want to keep to a <$800 budget, or at least pretend that i will...

Cool beans. Will give you a full list in a couple of days. :>

[StealthESW]

Try looking up your parts on pricewatch.com. If you have not already. I have found many good deals there.

Engineering graphics cards are best for rendering. I'm sure you already knew that.

[WingsofWar]

Originally Posted by StealthESW

Try looking up your parts on pricewatch.com. If you have not already. I have found many good deals there.

Engineering graphics cards are best for rendering. I'm sure you already knew that.

thanks for the suggestions! I actually haven't looked at any cards that were built for engineering and rendering. I saw the intel quad core work processors go all the way up to $3000 for those 30G/Ts Bus speed..yikes..

but ill look on pricewatch.com for some stuff too.

Thanks again!

[Giccin]

What memory size and HD size?

Edit: Ok I got a friend to do it because.. he does art work and builds PCs often. Lol

So this is what he got with the info I gave him. No monitor. and New Case because it comes with PSU. $800 budget.
CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115071

MOBO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128512

MEMORY
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820104173

CASE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119207

VGA
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814500197

HDD 2TB HD for storage and its pretty fast too.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136792

He also mentions... if you're willing to spend a little more... get a faster HD just for running your editing programs and saving them to that 2TB HDD.