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jduffy · 11-16-2012, 11:31 PM

Just some dude who lives under a bridge.

jonnyozero3 · 11-17-2012, 12:07 AM

Careful. Have you ever witnessed homeless nerd rage?

Mobius357 · 11-17-2012, 04:19 PM

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Careful. Have you ever witnessed homeless nerd rage?

Is that like someone in Florida on bath salts?

nedmundo · 12-14-2012, 11:35 AM

In the Dec. 10, 2012 issue, Autoweek again references an upcoming BRZ turbo. It appears in their report about the new Forester:

"The new turbo engine displaces 2.0 liters, compared to 2.5 in current spec. It will also power the forthcoming BRZ turbo, with direct fuel injection developed by Subaru rather than the port/direct-injection combo engineered by Toyota for the normally aspirated BRZ and Scion FR-S. A single twin-scroll turbocharger mounts below the top of the block to maintain the boxer engine's low center of mass."

This last point might indicate how the engine could work for the BRZ.

carbonBLUE · 12-14-2012, 11:47 AM

TADA never said it wouldn't be supercharged, scion is getting one, why cant subie?

zigzagz94 · 12-15-2012, 02:25 PM

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TADA never said it wouldn't be supercharged, scion is getting one, why cant subie?

Has this actually been confirmed by scion or is it still just magazine speculation based on a one off sema car that had a trd supercharger? Just because toyota has to release one for racing homologation rules doesnt mean scion will bring it to north america

Admiral Ballsy · 12-15-2012, 03:27 PM

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This last point might indicate how the engine could work for the BRZ.

If you've seen the Forester engine, it's obvious why it won't work - the turbo would be about two inches off the ground.

The article is confusing the BRZ with the next-gen WRX. It's already been announced that the turbo FA20 will power that car.

carbonBLUE · 12-15-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by zigzagz94

Has this actually been confirmed by scion or is it still just magazine speculation based on a one off sema car that had a trd supercharger? Just because toyota has to release one for racing homologation rules doesnt mean scion will bring it to north america

For the gt sports car to compete they have to make and sell the supercharger unit for tje public

Kage · 12-15-2012, 05:37 PM

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For the gt sports car to compete they have to make and sell the supercharger unit for tje public

Yes, but what he was saying it we know TOYOTA will release it, but that doesn't mean they will bring it to the US for the scions.

a.beck · 12-15-2012, 06:53 PM

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Yes, but what he was saying it we know TOYOTA will release it, but that doesn't mean they will bring it to the US for the scions.

The U.S. is their largest market, so it seems like a relatively safe assumption though.

zigzagz94 · 12-16-2012, 03:10 PM

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Yes, but what he was saying is: we know TOYOTA will release it, but that doesn't mean they will bring it to the US for the scions.

Exactly

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The U.S. is their largest market, so it seems like a relatively safe assumption though.

I don't know about that. The U.S. has routinely missed out on hot versions of Japanese sports cars.

I hope I'm wrong though and Toyota USA/SCION realizes the potential cash cow a factory warrantied FI option would be for them.

Exhaust · 12-16-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by a.beck

The U.S. is their largest market, so it seems like a relatively safe assumption though.

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TADA never said it wouldn't be supercharged, scion is getting one, why cant subie?

Well it is toyota after all, they know their history and what they are capable of and more importantly they know what their fans like. But then again didnt tada say something to the extent of anyone can make a turbo vehicle, reliability is a different story? I cant remember the exact quote but if I remember correctly it was a stab a the STI subaru rumors (not that subaru cant make a reliable DD turbo) but I thought he went further on to say a turbo is to predictable and that they want to do something different? Hence KERS rumor.

Spencer Strayer · 02-02-2013, 02:44 PM

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They will not Turbo this car. All the components are weak.
It will compete with the WRX. It will compete with the New Supra.

This is an entry level sports car that is over priced.

New supra? Where can i find quality info on this?

OrbitalEllipses · 02-02-2013, 02:47 PM

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I hope I'm wrong though and Toyota USA/SCION realizes the potential cash cow a factory warrantied FI option would be for them.

If they get a significant profit on the car yes it's a cash cow. If they continually lose money to "warranty" work from modified cars...they'll drop the model eventually.

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