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10-22-2012, 07:17 AM | #15 |
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Two sets of pads (and rotors if you prefer or your pad choice warrants it). IMO don't compromise on pads by running a "dual use" pad. Although I've been running track pads on the street for the last 4200 miles but I don't suggest it.
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I can't believe no one has said this yet, but the number one thing I would be doing is getting an oil cooler.
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I don't think anyone has data logged oil temps on track yet but brake pads and fluid are a minimum requirement IMO. Oil cooler goes in the nice to have category for me.
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So just because no one has data logged it, it's probably fine... right? Sound logic. All performance vehicles doing track work in anything other than COLD weather NEED an oil cooler. In my opinion this car should have one from factory. I suggest you look into the oil cooler threads.
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What oil temps are cars seeing on track? I'm used to over 300 degrees in florida on cars with smaller coolers, 270 or so with large coolers.
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On topic - I don't plan on upgrading rubber. I go to track to have fun, and so far this car is plenty fun on stock rubber. So, I might actually be picking up stock rubber people are getting rid of with the purpose of shredding it on the track. |
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10-22-2012, 10:28 AM | #21 |
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I see you're local to me, why don't you come out to some AutoX events first and get your feet wet (wetter?) with the car!
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On a side note, the oil cooler would be an excellent addition to the BRZ/FRS motor since this motor runs HOT! It's a nice to have (like Dave said), but not an ABSOLUTE necessity. We're running 5W30 Motul 300V and it has helped up no problem at WOT on track. No performance issues even after a 110F day at ACS where you're basically 100% throttle 80% of the time on a 2 minute track. To summarize, the list of priority for must haves should be: 1. Brake fluid and brake pads 2. Crash bolts 3. EHP Tires Nice to haves: 1. Exhaust (sounds cool) 2. Oil cooler (oil temps are high, but not as high as one would think) 3. More power 4. Suspension Power, suspension, bracing, etc. are nice to have but not necessary until the car becomes the limiting factor. CSG has taken the BRZ to new heights every single time we go out to the track. Small tweaks to the system makes for huge gains. The BRZ/FRS is a very good car out of the box so drive it for what it's worth with the stated setup. |
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Dave and David - THANK YOU for the info!! :happy0180:
David, yes please, I will be pm'ing you later; kinda in a rush ATM lol Quote:
If you add an oil cooler without upgrading your brake fluid/pads wouldn't the brakes overheat way before the oil anyway?
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Go get yourself a car out there first Ryan.LostCause...
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Personally I don't mind the noise, nor do I care if my wheels/car are clean, so depending on my level of laziness after an HPDE will determine whether or not I change the pads back out.. Since the first track day I've left the track pads in so far though.. then again my rotors are basically dead now. My fault for not switching rotors with carbotech is some peoples opinion, heat related issues IMO. Either way, they are dead at 10k and I'm replacing everything up front. Quote:
Boiled fluid and/or glazed pads does. I'd rather lose a motor than the entire car or my life. Over dramatization here.. yeah, but the point is I'd rather have brakes than cooler oil Good info from David up there
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Thanks! I really appreciate the info. I'm I guess an advanced beginner at the track; did a handful of lapping days with an instructor a few years ago and want to get back into it. That was in the M Coupe which needed no mods to go back and forth from street to track without flinching, so now I'm trying to figure it all out in the case of a car that needs a little more attention to what it's being used for.
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10-22-2012, 02:22 PM | #28 |
Brakes, alignment, seat time.
Tires are tricky....if you go with a "track" tire early on you won't learn as much. And with a stickier tire you will want at least some suspension work, even just a good set of springs. You'll have a lot more grip and thus want to control it a little more. A good streetable sporty tire will do well though....resist the temptation to go superwide. Focus on learning and not times. - Andrew |
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