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Old 05-26-2011, 07:22 PM   #43
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Told you guys 3 days ago about this car.

Fact is the car is like 80% Subie if not more.

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Neither manufacturer has "claimed" a design yet. There's a reason Subaru's design hasn't been revealed and that's because it doesn't exist. Toyota is playing with designs and once they find one they like, Subaru can make one.

However as it stands now, it would be silly for Subaru to make a design and then Toyota make one and stick with it while the car is still being developed.

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Co-development means exactly that. Those SOA guys are probably just butthurt that the Toyota is getting priority. (as far as first release, etc.)
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Old 05-26-2011, 07:28 PM   #44
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Will the rear bumper light make to production in the US too? Take off that light and save 100lb. :P
It looks more like reverse lights
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Old 05-26-2011, 07:31 PM   #45
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It looks more like reverse lights
I think so too, but isn't it too low?
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I think so too, but isn't it too low?
True, I always liked all the lights to be inside instead of everywhere on the bumper.
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It looks more like reverse lights
It looks like there are already some clear lights in the regular assembly.
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Told you guys 3 days ago about this car.

Fact is the car is like 80% Subie if not more.

Subaru isnt as big as Toyota.

Subaru also just worked on the next generation Impreza, Liberty/Legacy and the next Tribeca....


If anything this is 50/50.... but thats just thinking based on size of the companies and resources.
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Told you guys 3 days ago about this car.

Fact is the car is like 80% Subie if not more.
And the lead engineer on this project is from Toyota.

Hrrmmmmm....

Also consider Toyota owns a majority stake in Subaru's parent company, Fuji Heavy Industries.

Hrrrmmmmmmmm.....
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Subaru isnt as big as Toyota.

Subaru also just worked on the next generation Impreza, Liberty/Legacy and the next Tribeca....


If anything this is 50/50.... but thats just thinking based on size of the companies and resources.
Let's not nut swing Toyota, we all know everyone is little hurt about it being a joint venture and SOABlog somewhat discrediting Toyota.

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suspension
engine
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And the lead engineer on this project is from Toyota.

Hrrmmmmm....

Also consider Toyota owns a majority stake in Subaru's parent company, Fuji Heavy Industries.

Hrrrmmmmmmmm.....
That's fine, that means everyone still gets paid regardless. Doesn't change what I said, details will come out soon enough.
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i think i want both now
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Sorry, I'm just not seeing that this car is any different. Granted the steering wheel stitching is interesting, but Subie isn't the only manufacturer to ever do that. The tennis ball is neat, but they could just be f-in with us because, hey I bet they have the interwebz too. If it is a different car, these things are gonna look very much alike in the end.
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How do we know that the cars shown in Nurburgring are indeed the Toyota version? We could all have been looking at the Subie version all along, in different places around the world

I'm trying to compare the two cars here and I can't tell the differences apart (spoiler and lower rockers aside)... all the concept versions we've seen of the Toyota FT have had edgier, triangular-shaped headlights. These recent shots all show a rounder, softer headlight casing which could be the Subaru variant?
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nope that is not the subaru version but still the toyota. i guess this isn't really confindential. subaru is still working on their design and has taken all the aero data from toyota to finalize their design. that's why you've seen two design concepts of the FT and none from subaru.

that's a pretty good spy shots because we didn't spot them but we did see a few phones snapping away.

regarding the steering wheel that's not finalized but you will see a lot of sharing of parts that's available currently to keep production costs low.

the sti people were visiting and that is not a turbo FT/FR that's following it.
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nope that is not the subaru version but still the toyota. i guess this isn't really confindential. subaru is still working on their design and has taken all the aero data from toyota to finalize their design. that's why you've seen two design concepts of the FT and none from subaru.

that's a pretty good spy shots because we didn't spot them but we did see a few phones snapping away.

regarding the steering wheel that's not finalized but you will see a lot of sharing of parts that's available currently to keep production costs low.

the sti people were visiting and that is not a turbo FT/FR that's following it.
i dont believe you
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