Aluminum Lug Nuts vs steel chromed OE?

[gmookher]

decided: keep steel for now! save up for rays or kics

[TouchMyHonda]

Originally Posted by shu5892001

When I had Rays extended lug nuts I didn't have any "safety" problems, I just had my mechanic use a torque wrench instead of a impact gun, and I don't think RAYS will make lug nuts that are less safe than cheaper muteki lug nuts. The reason why I say avoid muteki and similar ones because they chip badly, and I doubt anyone want red lug nut that look chrome after 1 summer. But I agree with people that kics are the best, which is what I will get this time for the FRS

Well what you think and know aren't one and the same. I never said that aluminum lug nuts were unsafe. I did however say that steel is "safer". Steel lug nuts will (almost) always be safer to run than aluminum lug nuts. You can not argue against that.

[shu5892001]

Originally Posted by TouchMyHonda

Well what you think and know aren't one and the same. I never said that aluminum lug nuts were unsafe. I did however say that steel is "safer". Steel lug nuts will (almost) always be safer to run than aluminum lug nuts. You can not argue against that.

what I know is muteki are made in china and RAYS are made in japan, but if cost is a factor then I would buy muteki by all means

[TouchMyHonda]

Originally Posted by shu5892001

what I know is muteki are made in china and RAYS are made in japan, but if cost is a factor then I would buy muteki by all means

OK now you getting me mad LMAO. Since you clearly know absolutely nothing about automotive parts manufacturing, I'll let you in on a secret. Mackin Industries makes Rays engineering and Muteki lugnuts, ALL IN THE SAME HOUSE.

http://www.mackin-ind.com/?page_id=2165

Educate yourself before posting again. Every thing you say is wrong.

[RAYSSPL]

It's true that you shouldn't use an impact gun on these lightweight aluminum lugs as they fatigue and deteriorate quickly.

I am using forged aluminum lug nuts from 949racing for my Mr2 Spyder. They're amazing.
http://949racing.com/forged-alloy-lugs-black-12x15.aspx

[RAYSSPL]

Originally Posted by TouchMyHonda

OK now you getting me mad LMAO. Since you clearly know absolutely nothing about automotive parts manufacturing, I'll let you in on a secret. Mackin Industries makes Rays engineering and Muteki lugnuts, ALL IN THE SAME HOUSE.

http://www.mackin-ind.com/?page_id=2165

Educate yourself before posting again. Every thing you say is wrong.

It's true. This forum is full of n00bs who don't have enough decency to search first, then ask. Even worst is when you have n00bs dispelling hearsay and just crap. It then gets some of the other n00bs believing. It literally is dumb and dumber

[shu5892001]

Originally Posted by TouchMyHonda

OK now you getting me mad LMAO. Since you clearly know absolutely nothing about automotive parts manufacturing, I'll let you in on a secret. Mackin Industries makes Rays engineering and Muteki lugnuts, ALL IN THE SAME HOUSE.

http://www.mackin-ind.com/?page_id=2165

Educate yourself before posting again. Every thing you say is wrong.

Made by the same company doesn't mean made by the same place, same reason why your frs/brz is made in japan but the camry and corolla are made here. In case you can't see, it's made in taiwan

[TouchMyHonda]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy

The movie is right.

[TouchMyHonda]

Originally Posted by shu5892001

Made by the same company doesn't mean made by the same place, same reason why your frs/brz is made in japan but the camry and corolla are made here. In case you can't see, it's made in taiwan

Made in Taiwan isn't made in China either. Also you have no poof or fact that Rays or Muteki is produced anywhere specific.... unless you are a Mackin Industry board member, are you? Also, since when is a steel lugnut made in "china" less strong than a aluminum lugnut made in "japan". Assuming any of what you assume is true or right....

You are going in circles and creating contradictions for yourself. I'm done letting you embarrassed your self further. It's all on you now. I will no be responsible for feeding you more ways to prove you have no idea about this.

[shu5892001]

Originally Posted by TouchMyHonda

Made in Taiwan isn't made in China either. Also you have no poof or fact that Rays or Muteki is produced anywhere specific.... unless you are a Mackin Industry board member, are you? Also, since when is a steel lugnut made in "china" less strong than a aluminum lugnut made in "japan". Assuming any of what you assume is true or right....

You are going in circles and creating contradictions for yourself. I'm done letting you embarrassed your self further. It's all on you now. I will no be responsible for feeding you more ways to prove you have no idea about this.

I never said aluminum lug nuts are stronger than steel ones, I only said try to avoid muteki because it's prone to chipping. You are the one who said:

Originally Posted by TouchMyHonda

. Muteki's or any other steel lugnut will be safer to use than aluminum ones

And plus you are contradicting yourself too, you first said they are all made in the same place, and now since I proved to you mutekis are made in taiwan and you are assuming what i said is right lol

[RavSpec]

Guys:

We sell tons of the Muteki, RAYS, WORK, WEDS, KICS etc. All the anodized color lug nuts chip and color fade away regardless of the brand.

Never use impact gun, always use torque wrench.

Aluminum lug nuts are lighter, but also softer. Ur studs are steel, so if not use carefully, the aluminum lug nuts will get destroy.

KICS made chromely steel lug nuts which was the R26, and R40 series. They are a bit heavier than the Aluminum version but because it's chromely steel, it's stronger as well.

If use properly, most of these lug nuts are safe. I had used every single brand for the past ten years, the most common problem is the color fading out and chipping off regardless of the brand.

[RavSpec]

I have some OEM lug nuts from the BRZ and also a set of OEM wheels from the BRZ. It looks like the tapered wasn't enough to use any of these aftermarket lug nuts. So you might not get enough thread to use aftermarket 60 degree tapered lug nuts on the stock wheels.

Mark

[TouchMyHonda]

Originally Posted by shu5892001

I never said aluminum lug nuts are stronger than steel ones, I only said try to avoid muteki because it's prone to chipping. You are the one who said:



And plus you are contradicting yourself too, you first said they are all made in the same place, and now since I proved to you mutekis are made in taiwan and you are assuming what i said is right lol

I never said anything was made anywhere. You were saying that because you assumed Multeki lugs nuts were made in china and that you assume Rays are made in japan that that makes Muteki's less safe or lesser quality.

I simply informed you that you are basically claiming that mutekis are crap... when they are made the the same factory as rays engineering under that same manufacture plant designed both by the same engineers.

You clearly didn't know you were bashing one brand with another brand... when they are both the same brand. HA

[TouchMyHonda]

Originally Posted by RavSpec

Guys:

We sell tons of the Muteki, RAYS, WORK, WEDS, KICS etc. All the anodized color lug nuts chip and color fade away regardless of the brand.

These are also all made by Mackin Industries.