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05-18-2023, 06:11 PM | #1 |
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Ohlins launched 2nd gen
Seems like ohlins launched 2nd gen specific coilovers
SUS MP21S2 https://www.ohlins.com/document/85397/ Few retailers already have it |
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Can't go wrong with Ohlins!
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Expensive, yes, for nice ones. I had the Raceseng ones and they never made any noises though.
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I can confirm this. My previous set-up included both 14mm and 16mm camber bolts with Pedders offset (-.75*) top mounts on Koni Yellows. My alignment guru said -3.5 may be possible however due to my long DD requirement we settled at -2.75 to save the tires. Have switched to Ohlins with their adjustable top mounts and one camber bolt. Maxed at -5* for track and much less for street driving.
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From the manual, page 7:
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I had KW Clubsport 2-way on my FRS, and on track they were fantastic, but on the road I found them a bit unpleasant over broken pavement and a 800km roundtrip to the track. I was always curious if the 3-way KW's would have been a better choice with high-speed adjustment as well. This Ohlin 3 valve system seems to try to accommodate for the high-speed bumps. Would be nice if there was an objective review comparing 22+ BRZ stock suspension to the R&T, I'm finding the stock rear a bit too soft for my liking on track, although the comfort is amazing. The R&T spring rates are in the install manual, listed as 60 N/mm (converted to 342 lbs/in) both front and rear so very much a front biased system when motion ratio is taken into account. |
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Ohlins are awesome and cooler than KW. lol
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How are the Ohlins compared with the Racecomp Tarmac 2 and Super Street 2? The price are so similar?
99% street use only $2499 Tarmac 2 - no camber plates +$180 Pedders Top Hat = $2679 $2399 Super Street 2 - with camber plates $2210 Ohlins - no camber plates +$180 Pedders Top Hat = $2390 (cheapest) Ohlins seems best deal to me and "looks" like it has better materials on the shock body. Any comments? Thanks! |
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Talk to RCE and see what they say. Just my thought.
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Ohlin's had a lot of issues on the first gen with the front end link mounting tab. Unless they redesigned this I wouldn't touch them. If you really want to compare them you need to see a shock dyno plot.
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We ran the original Ohlins on our 1st gen shop car years ago and put a lot of miles on them. We liked the valving overall quite a bit but weren't happy with some of the other details like the endlink mounting tab (mentioned above) and the camber plates (which are thankfully optionally now). They also had a more limited height adjustment range than most other coilovers. That wasn't a huge problem for us though. It would be good to get more information about you and your car, like tire choice, other mods, and so on. - Andrew |
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My 99% street use is based on: 2.3km circuit x 20 laps x 10 track day max (for the entire ownership of my car) 460km vs 120,000km street driving (~6 to 7 yrs). So 99% of the mileage are on the street. Hopefully that clarify things a bit. With respect to why looking at these coilovers: I am looking for a reliable or quality coilovers because I don't want to pay extra for low end coilovers if it breaks down (remove and re-install, alignment). I had Tarmac 1 on my 2005 legacy 17 years ago from RaceComp and it last me 7 years without any issue. My current Mini has a ST coilovers for 5 yrs so far so good. I am okay going with KW/RCE/ST, just that I see the Ohlins price is similar and it is a reputable brand. Now that all 3 of your comments help (especially the mounting tab information and glad I asked around). Nothing is better than end-user's experience and comment TBH. With regards to low end coilovers, my friend has a set of Megan Coilover on his RSX and he had to remove it within 1 year (the damping adjustment knob is broken) and end up replaced with a set of Koni. My other friend's BC Racing coilover on his Mini has fitment issue and he end up bought a set of KW. Both had to spend extra $ for removal, reinstall, alignment and purchase of another set of coilover. Hope that address why I rather spend more $ upfront on a higher quality coilover than a low end ones. If you have any suggestions on a reliable coilover for street use, please let me know. I will look into it as well; otherwise, SS1 appears to be a better choice for me per Andrew's comment. Thanks! |
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