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gwascopter · 06-25-2012, 09:55 PM

let's be honest 9 out 10 car salesman are asshole.

Project_GT86 · 07-30-2012, 05:39 PM

wanted to avoid making a new topic so decided to bump this as i am currently shopping around for a FR-S. Additional reviews from other dealers or currently listed would be helpful

Trojan_SC · 07-30-2012, 06:56 PM

I bought mine from Crown Toyota in Ontario. Took over for someone else's preorder. They called me the day the car came in, no markups or added crap (except standard PIO) and even made sure to put a "SOLD" sign on my car and not let anyone drive it before I came to pick it up the next day.

nocurfew · 07-30-2012, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Trojan_SC

I bought mine from Crown Toyota in Ontario. Took over for someone else's preorder. They called me the day the car came in, no markups or added crap (except standard PIO) and even made sure to put a "SOLD" sign on my car and not let anyone drive it before I came to pick it up the next day.

I also bought my Whiteout FR-S from Crown Toyota. They called me the day it came in, no mark ups or additional add-ons. No one was allowed to test drive it. I bought it with 10 miles.

Project_GT86 · 07-31-2012, 07:19 AM

Going to give them a call. Its about an hour away but sure beats a marked up pricing locally if I get as lucky as you two.

Marrk · 07-31-2012, 11:08 AM

Yesterday, Toyota of Hollywood told me that they were charging $1500 over MSRP for all FR-Ss.

I never liked this dealership and I am happy to stay away from them.

madoka · 07-31-2012, 12:22 PM

I was told that Puente Hills Subaru was expecting 3 BR-Zs by the end of July. I was also told that there would be a $5,000 markup on each of them.

madoka · 07-31-2012, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NoVtec

West Covina Toyota/Scion

promised to give me a shuttle service which they refused after I decided not to sign the contract because there was 6k mark up.

That's incredibly sleazy.

The worst "market adjustment" I've ever seen was also at a West Covina dealership. West Covina Nissan wanted $60,000 over MSRP for a GT-R.

Marrk · 07-31-2012, 12:34 PM

I know nothing on Scion, so please explain how they can get mark ups and still be a "pure pricing" dealer? If the Scion dealer can negotiate upward (with a mark up), then you can certainly negotiate downward (with a discount), which, it seems to me, destroys the whole idea of pure pricing.

But maybe this issue is better left to another thread.

nocurfew · 07-31-2012, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Project_GT86

Going to give them a call. Its about an hour away but sure beats a marked up pricing locally if I get as lucky as you two.

Good luck! John Villalobos took care of me. Mention my name, Ray. He'll know who I am, and take care of you.

nocurfew · 07-31-2012, 01:01 PM

I know when the FR-S just came out in June, West Covina had the crazy mark ups because of their manager. He stated that the car was limited production for this year and "good luck" trying to get one in white and pretty much laughed in my face. Fast forward to present time, they've been calling me saying they have FR-S' for MSRP now. The manager was fired, supposedly.

Project_GT86 · 07-31-2012, 03:25 PM

Scion of North Hollywood has a 7k mark up which was the added five axis kit...nothing more. It's also supposed to be standard in all their FR-S.

Project_GT86 · 07-31-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nocurfew

Good luck! John Villalobos took care of me. Mention my name, Ray. He'll know who I am, and take care of you.

Just gave him a call. Very nice and honest guy. It's funny that he knew who you were without me saying your name. Are you related? haha

Jokes aside, i appreciate the help Ray!

anteater86 · 07-31-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Marrk

I know nothing on Scion, so please explain how they can get mark ups and still be a "pure pricing" dealer? If the Scion dealer can negotiate upward (with a mark up), then you can certainly negotiate downward (with a discount), which, it seems to me, destroys the whole idea of pure pricing.

But maybe this issue is better left to another thread.

You're so right. I've always interpreted "pure pricing" as the negotiation scapegoat. Now, personally I think the MSRP on their cars is right on target and they really do a good job at pricing their products, but again, when the whole "mark up" issue comes up and the manager has to defend it, they can just go, "uhh, it's part of pure pricing" -- it's a hazy definition.

But again, not an attack on Scion (love em). Just my interpretation of the "pure pricing" concept.

07-31-2012, 11:08 AM	#62
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Trojan_SC Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: '14 Monogram FR-S(RIP) Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 909 Thanks: 258 Thanked 417 Times in 202 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I bought mine from Crown Toyota in Ontario. Took over for someone else's preorder. They called me the day the car came in, no markups or added crap (except standard PIO) and even made sure to put a "SOLD" sign on my car and not let anyone drive it before I came to pick it up the next day.

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Project_GT86 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Scion tC Location: SoCaL Posts: 80 Thanks: 6 Thanked 36 Times in 15 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Going to give them a call. Its about an hour away but sure beats a marked up pricing locally if I get as lucky as you two.

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madoka Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 1995 Nissan Maxima Location: Southern California Posts: 75 Thanks: 2 Thanked 66 Times in 34 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I was told that Puente Hills Subaru was expecting 3 BR-Zs by the end of July. I was also told that there would be a $5,000 markup on each of them.

07-31-2012, 12:34 PM	#65
Marrk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: Honda Fit Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 722 Thanked 125 Times in 90 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I know nothing on Scion, so please explain how they can get mark ups and still be a "pure pricing" dealer? If the Scion dealer can negotiate upward (with a mark up), then you can certainly negotiate downward (with a discount), which, it seems to me, destroys the whole idea of pure pricing. But maybe this issue is better left to another thread.

07-31-2012, 01:01 PM	#67
nocurfew Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Whiteout FR-S Location: Southern California Posts: 172 Thanks: 144 Thanked 38 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 22 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I know when the FR-S just came out in June, West Covina had the crazy mark ups because of their manager. He stated that the car was limited production for this year and "good luck" trying to get one in white and pretty much laughed in my face. Fast forward to present time, they've been calling me saying they have FR-S' for MSRP now. The manager was fired, supposedly.

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Project_GT86 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Scion tC Location: SoCaL Posts: 80 Thanks: 6 Thanked 36 Times in 15 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Scion of North Hollywood has a 7k mark up which was the added five axis kit...nothing more. It's also supposed to be standard in all their FR-S.

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