The all-new BMW 2 Series Coupé

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

I don’t like a lot of modern automotive design (especially BMW), but the proportions on this side profile shot are amazing. .

agree, proportion wise this would probably been a better base for the Supra.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by gymratter

agree, proportion wise this would probably been a base for the Supra.

Fun fact, early A90 Supra mules were disguised as 2 series.

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Fun fact, early J29 Supra mules were disguised as 2 series.

yes sir

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by gymratter

yes sir

Huh. TIL J29 is the proper chassis code.

[Ash_89]

I'm really uninterested in BMWs, they used to be so classy and desirable to me some +8 years ago now they are almost universally styled with spite in mind.

The "face"/front of a car should be appealing even if it isn't a conventionally attractive, the way they style the kidney grill whether elongated or stretched horizontally is just so horrible, then the "eyes" (front and rear) on this are just comical.

Comical, horrifying and depressing sums the brand up to me.

While I don't have a good academic handle on these matters I would be so interested to see a case study on the shift of the brands image and how different consumers perceive it, I suppose there is a majority (new and younger customers) who just view it as a luxury brand so will lap it up even if it caused cancer but this has to be destructive to their long term customers which companies should be trying to retain. No?

The ongoing demise of the ICE, the push for ever higher and unusable performance, styling for the visually impaired and the prices of new cars all make me rather depressed.

Apologies for the rant.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by Ash_89

I'm really uninterested in BMWs, they used to be so classy and desirable to me some +8 years ago now they are almost universally styled with spite in mind.

The "face"/front of a car should be appealing even if it isn't a conventionally attractive, the way they style the kidney grill whether elongated or stretched horizontally is just so horrible, then the "eyes" (front and rear) on this are just comical.

Comical, horrifying and depressing sums the brand up to me.

While I don't have a good academic handle on these matters I would be so interested to see a case study on the shift of the brands image and how different consumers perceive it, I suppose there is a majority (new and younger customers) who just view it as a luxury brand so will lap it up even if it caused cancer but this has to be destructive to their long term customers which companies should be trying to retain. No?

The ongoing demise of the ICE, the push for ever higher and unusable performance, styling for the visually impaired and the prices of new cars all make me rather depressed.

Apologies for the rant.

As a long time BMW enthusiast I agree. I can’t think of a single BMW introduced in the last 5 years that appeals to me. The last one that does is the 6 Gran coupe, but that got the axe in 2019.

The brand as a whole has lost its way, not just in styling. The F series cars (~2010 on) drive worse than the ones that came before. Gone is the well-weighted steering and feedback. They hide behind the electric PS but forget that the 2004 Z4 had EPS and they were great. Manuals are gone unless you shell out a minimum of 85K on an M car. Most of them weigh about 500 lbs more than they did 10 years ago and they drive like it. Yea sure they’re faster but that’s but the point. If this is the future I don’t like it.

This is why the continuation of the BRZ/GR86 is so great to me, some car companies actually still care.

[Wally86]

Originally Posted by beltax90

this actually looks pretty cool

Or like a crying pig from angry birds...

[Wally86]

In case you don't see it.














And in case you still don't see it... you have to see what I see now.

[mn_ca]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

As a long time BMW enthusiast I agree. I can’t think of a single BMW introduced in the last 5 years that appeals to me. The last one that does is the 6 Gran coupe, but that got the axe in 2019.

For me, the last BMW that appealed to me was the e46. It was my dream car in high school. I've been trying to find a nice clean example with low miles but prices have skyrocketed

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by Wally86

Or like a crying pig from angry birds...

The first thing that popped into my head was Robocop lol.

[Red-86]

I actually really like the profile of the new 2 series, especially from the side. It is longer, wider and lower, which gives it a sportier stance. The current 2 series always looked a little short, tall and frumpy to me. Can’t wait to see what the new M2 will be like.

Having said that, whilst I approve of the new shape, the details like lights and vents are a bit off. The headlights and taillights are a bit ugly, and the triangular vents on the M sport looks weird and wonky - the normal non-M sport looks cleaner.

I find it annoying that the M240i comes only as X drive in Australia if I heard correctly. I really prefer RWD, even if it is slightly slower to 100 and in the 1/4 mile.

[Red-86]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

I don’t like a lot of modern automotive design (especially BMW), but the proportions on this side profile shot are amazing. .

I agree. I know people are mad that it has grown longer and wider, but combined with the lower roof height and that lovely long bonnet, the new 2 series coupe looks so much better and more muscular than the ugly new 4 series coupe, which just looks soft and awkward. There is no way I’d take an M4 over the new M2.