Random Thoughts - Part Deux [NO POLITICS]

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Nevermore

I'll have to check his out.

My goals are a full exhaust plus a tune. If I feel like, maybe the drive shaft.

The exhaust and tune are the very best jumping off point. Lightweight parts and such are part of a much bigger picture. If you do all the free weight reduction first and are running out of ways to do more then is the time to start looking at parts. The cost per gain ratio from a lightweight shaft is horrible.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Nevermore

So what about drive shafts? Yay or nay? Aluminium or carbon fiber or does it not matter?

Hard pass unless trying to shave every ounce. If I cared about being "competetive" at all, I would first drop 70 pounds of my own weight before spending a dime on light parts for a real race car.


86 is not a race car. It is a fun car that can be raced.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Hard pass unless trying to shave every ounce. If I cared about being "competetive" at all, I would first drop 70 pounds of my own weight before spending a dime on light parts for a real race car.


86 is not a race car. It is a fun car that can be raced.

This should be the new motto!

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

86 is not a race car. It is a fun car that can be raced.

@ 3:45

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[ScoobsMcGee]

Originally Posted by Nevermore

I'll have to check his out.

My goals are a full exhaust plus a tune. If I feel like, maybe the drive shaft.

If you haven't done it already, and are looking for weight savings, get wheels and tires. The stock FRS wheel is 20.7 lbs, which is heavy for a 17x7. The cliche RPF1s in 17x7.5 are 15.1 lbs, and can accommodate a 225 width tire. That's about a 18 - 20 lbs savings in unsprung weight, with more tire (estimated because I have no idea how much weight the wider tire will add). In contrast, a carbon driveshaft seems to save about 10 lbs. If you wait until your tires need replaced anyway, the wheels will likely be less expensive as well.

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Hard pass unless trying to shave every ounce. If I cared about being "competetive" at all, I would first drop 70 pounds of my own weight before spending a dime on light parts for a real race car.


86 is not a race car. It is a fun car that can be raced.

Or this. If I could lay off the junk food all over the place at work, and go hiking more, I could probably drop 30 or so pounds of driver myself. If it mattered.


Also tempted to make that last part a sig.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by krayzie

@ 3:45

Yup. Exactly.

[soulreapersteve]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Wait, is the Camry a second car?

This is why I don't tell jokes

I tell people my car is essentially a 2 door Camry (even though its no where close) to avoid explaining backstory of the Twins - unless I get the feeling they are interested.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

86 is not a race car. It is a fun car that can be raced.

Originally Posted by krayzie

@ 3:45

Hm... that's all depends. Any car can become "race car" with a proper modification. Google dictionary define "Race car" as "an automobile built or modified for racing." So in that definition, 86 can and can't be race car. It's all depends on how you "build or modified" it. Hell even Ichishima-san made Honda Fit into a legit race car. Other example would be GT300 class Toyota Prius.

Also I don't think, I can name 1 car that's fit the term "race car" out from stock form. It might get close to be one out of box, but still need to modified to fit in the term "race car".

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by soulreapersteve

This is why I don't tell jokes

I tell people my car is essentially a 2 door Camry (even though its no where close) to avoid explaining backstory of the Twins - unless I get the feeling they are interested.

Oh, FFS...

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Hm... that's all depends.

Oh, hell. You know what I mean. None of us are racers. We're "enthusiasts."

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Hm... that's all depends. Any car can become "race car" with a proper modification. Google dictionary define "Race car" as "an automobile built or modified for racing." So in that definition, 86 can and can't be race car. It's all depends on how you "build or modified" it. Hell even Ichishima-san made Honda Fit into a legit race car. Other example would be GT300 class Toyota Prius.

Also I don't think, I can name 1 car that's fit the term "race car" out from stock form. It might get close to be one out of box, but still need to modified to fit in the term "race car".

That is sort of what Ultra said. You can make a street car a race car and you can make a race car a street car but someplace along the line you have to decide which way you want it the most.

[ScoobsMcGee]

Originally Posted by soulreapersteve

This is why I don't tell jokes

I tell people my car is essentially a 2 door Camry (even though its no where close) to avoid explaining backstory of the Twins - unless I get the feeling they are interested.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by ScoobsMcGee

If you haven't done it already, and are looking for weight savings, get wheels and tires. The stock FRS wheel is 20.7 lbs, which is heavy for a 17x7. The cliche RPF1s in 17x7.5 are 15.1 lbs, and can accommodate a 225 width tire. That's about a 18 - 20 lbs savings in unsprung weight, with more tire (estimated because I have no idea how much weight the wider tire will add). In contrast, a carbon driveshaft seems to save about 10 lbs. If you wait until your tires need replaced anyway, the wheels will likely be less expensive as well.

Tire weight makes a bigger difference than wheel weight...

[ScoobsMcGee]

Originally Posted by Spuds

Tire weight makes a bigger difference than wheel weight...

Any change is negligible at best, but if it matters that much then just stick with 17x7 and 215 tires. With 225, you'd also have to calculate the additional rolling resistance, assuming that we're only concerned with acceleration and not cornering speed.