Alignment FAQ Thread - Page 11 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

tawheed · 08-18-2017, 01:40 AM

Had my alignment done yesterday, only mod is Cusco Street Zero A coilovers.. I'm not sure whether I should ask them to match the front camber to the natural rear camber, or get rear LCA to get closer to what the front is set at - daily driver.

Lust · 08-18-2017, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tawheed

Had my alignment done yesterday, only mod is Cusco Street Zero A coilovers.. I'm not sure whether I should ask them to match the front camber to the natural rear camber, or get rear LCA to get closer to what the front is set at - daily driver.

More front camber and less rear camber. Get some SPC LCAs if you're on a budget. Have them fix your toe too.

mulekr1 · 09-19-2017, 08:46 PM

Hey guys,
After reading the thread I'm understanding that when I lowered my car I got natural camber. Basically I need 0 degrees toe as well
So what's the best camber to go on all 4 wheels -2 degrees with 0 degree toe (after I raise my front suspension back up)

gtengr · 09-19-2017, 09:40 PM

Thoughts on adding ballast for the alignment? On my previous car it was recommended to be aligned with a certain amount of weight in the car. I played around with it at the shop and it made a small difference in the numbers.

swarb · 09-20-2017, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by gtengr

Thoughts on adding ballast for the alignment? On my previous car it was recommended to be aligned with a certain amount of weight in the car. I played around with it at the shop and it made a small difference in the numbers.

Sit in the car. Done.
If you're planning to track the car, take the spare/etc out.

swarb · 09-20-2017, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mulekr1

Hey guys,
After reading the thread I'm understanding that when I lowered my car I got natural camber. Basically I need 0 degrees toe as well
So what's the best camber to go on all 4 wheels -2 degrees with 0 degree toe (after I raise my front suspension back up)

Max camber or close to 3 up front, or at least more than the rear. 2+ for the front is a good start.

churchx · 09-20-2017, 04:25 AM

Handling wise - depending on for what/where/how you'll use your car. For daily driving only i'd go for -1.5 to -2 front camber, -1 to -1.5 rear. If taking also to track, then -3 front, -2.5 rear. In both cases zero toe front, slight 0.1deg toe-in rear.

Captain Snooze · 09-20-2017, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by churchx

If taking also to track....

... buy a pyrometer.

finch1750 · 09-20-2017, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mulekr1

Hey guys,
After reading the thread I'm understanding that when I lowered my car I got natural camber. Basically I need 0 degrees toe as well
So what's the best camber to go on all 4 wheels -2 degrees with 0 degree toe (after I raise my front suspension back up)

Really depends on use and tire selection

mulekr1 · 09-20-2017, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by finch1750

Really depends on use and tire selection

Daily driving 20% spirited driving (I live in NYC so that's rare)
245/45/17 hankook ventus 2

churchx · 10-06-2017, 07:02 AM

So with stock shocks/springs, at stock height, without slotting, -3 camber front is possible even with rubber top mounts.
SPC 81305 camberbolts lower hole, Whiteline KCA416 ones in upper, Whiteline KCA434 LCA bushings anti-dive kit for slight extra caster, Powerflex PFF69-801G LCA bushings for extra camber, (non eccentric) Subaru group-N topmounts:

But it's about max for front camber (~ -3.1dg), so if more is needed, camberplates or lowering or slotting probably is unavoidable evil for extra camber.

timmydatooth · 01-02-2018, 10:52 AM

So I just got an alignment from tire kingdom. But now I notice when I drive it still pulls to the right a little bit. Is this normal or is this something I should be concerned with? I know alignments will not be prefect every single time but just don't want any extra wear on my car or tires.

churchx · 01-02-2018, 10:59 AM

timmydatooth: first things to check - tire pressures (if tires & their wear same). And who knows, what alignment really is, do you have printout? Alignment been done != alignment done right.

JazzleSAURUS · 01-02-2018, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by timmydatooth

So I just got an alignment from tire kingdom. But now I notice when I drive it still pulls to the right a little bit. Is this normal or is this something I should be concerned with? I know alignments will not be prefect every single time but just don't want any extra wear on my car or tires.

A car with a fresh alignment that is pulling consistently either gt a bad alignment from the get go, (either their tolerances are bad, did a sloppy/imprecise job, or they did not tighten a fastener correctly and it slipped out of alignment,) OR there is component failure occurring that they didn't notice. (A worn bushing may only show it's influence under acceleration, and it's throwing geometry out of wack every time you step on the go pedal, or slam on the brakes, for example.)

Somebody missed something, either a sloppy job, or a failing component.

Hope that helps!

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08-18-2017, 01:40 AM	#141
tawheed Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: '13 Sport Tech Location: Edmonton Posts: 115 Thanks: 14 Thanked 57 Times in 28 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Had my alignment done yesterday, only mod is Cusco Street Zero A coilovers.. I'm not sure whether I should ask them to match the front camber to the natural rear camber, or get rear LCA to get closer to what the front is set at - daily driver.

09-19-2017, 08:46 PM	#143
mulekr1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Drives: 15' Limited BRZ Location: New York Posts: 161 Thanks: 23 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hey guys, After reading the thread I'm understanding that when I lowered my car I got natural camber. Basically I need 0 degrees toe as well So what's the best camber to go on all 4 wheels -2 degrees with 0 degree toe (after I raise my front suspension back up)

09-19-2017, 09:40 PM	#144
gtengr Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Drives: 2017 BRZ Location: USA Posts: 655 Thanks: 326 Thanked 258 Times in 177 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thoughts on adding ballast for the alignment? On my previous car it was recommended to be aligned with a certain amount of weight in the car. I played around with it at the shop and it made a small difference in the numbers.

09-20-2017, 04:25 AM	#147
churchx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 GT86 Location: Latvia, Riga Posts: 4,335 Thanks: 698 Thanked 2,086 Times in 1,436 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Handling wise - depending on for what/where/how you'll use your car. For daily driving only i'd go for -1.5 to -2 front camber, -1 to -1.5 rear. If taking also to track, then -3 front, -2.5 rear. In both cases zero toe front, slight 0.1deg toe-in rear.

10-06-2017, 07:02 AM	#151
churchx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 GT86 Location: Latvia, Riga Posts: 4,335 Thanks: 698 Thanked 2,086 Times in 1,436 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	So with stock shocks/springs, at stock height, without slotting, -3 camber front is possible even with rubber top mounts. SPC 81305 camberbolts lower hole, Whiteline KCA416 ones in upper, Whiteline KCA434 LCA bushings anti-dive kit for slight extra caster, Powerflex PFF69-801G LCA bushings for extra camber, (non eccentric) Subaru group-N topmounts: But it's about max for front camber (~ -3.1dg), so if more is needed, camberplates or lowering or slotting probably is unavoidable evil for extra camber.

01-02-2018, 10:52 AM	#152
timmydatooth Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Drives: Scion Frs Location: Florida Posts: 342 Thanks: 74 Thanked 32 Times in 27 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So I just got an alignment from tire kingdom. But now I notice when I drive it still pulls to the right a little bit. Is this normal or is this something I should be concerned with? I know alignments will not be prefect every single time but just don't want any extra wear on my car or tires.

01-02-2018, 10:59 AM	#153
churchx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 GT86 Location: Latvia, Riga Posts: 4,335 Thanks: 698 Thanked 2,086 Times in 1,436 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	timmydatooth: first things to check - tire pressures (if tires & their wear same). And who knows, what alignment really is, do you have printout? Alignment been done != alignment done right.

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