Advice before purchasing heavily modified 86

[James The Giant]

If you want a boosted twin, I would suggest buying a lightly used (20-50k miles) stock car, and using the savings to get the exact mods you want. That's what Im doing, only I bought it new, and am boosting it sooner or later. I have enjoyed a portion of the warranty period and am comfortable its not a lemon, plus I know the car hasn't been abused, because I am the only person to have driven it (aside from test drives at thr dealer)

As everyone has already said, you have no clue how hard that car has been driven, or if the work was done by professional mechanics or teenagers...

Plus, you will probably find it much more satisfying to enjoy a car you designed and modified yourself (even if you have someone else do the work).

[TommyW]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

Oh? Do praytell. I think you'd have to travel back in time several generations.

Early 2000's are around 16K or so which is about what a decent used 86 goes for. The 'Vette is about 500 lbs heavier and just a bigger car overall. Personally, it was a great car but just didn't have that light, nimble feel. I think you're either a 'Vette guy or not a 'Vette guy. It all comes down to personal preference. I was always a 911 guy but now enjoying the 86 for many reasons.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by TommyW

Early 2000's are around 16K or so which is about what a decent used 86 goes for. The 'Vette is about 500 lbs heavier and just a bigger car overall. Personally, it was a great car but just didn't have that light, nimble feel. I think you're either a 'Vette guy or not a 'Vette guy. It all comes down to personal preference. I was always a 911 guy but now enjoying the 86 for many reasons.

You still didn't go in to what vettes handle worse. I mean with wide tires, light weight, and a fairly high revving v8 they were plenty light and nimble. Also used c6s are going for low to mid 20s now.... so... performance car bargain central.

[Insane]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

You still didn't go in to what vettes handle worse. I mean with wide tires, light weight, and a fairly high revving v8 they were plenty light and nimble. Also used c6s are going for low to mid 20s now.... so... performance car bargain central.

Not in Australia unfortunately.

And we get raped on all luxury /prestige/expensive cars, so even a late 2000's Porsche Cayman still costs almost 50k AUD.

[Riftur]

Originally Posted by Insane

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113887

29,000 USD for a 2013 BRZ?

That car has never been driven though, I like that car myself lol.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by Insane

Not in Australia unfortunately.

And we get raped on all luxury /prestige/expensive cars, so even a late 2000's Porsche Cayman still costs almost 50k AUD.

Well, i didn't see you were in Australia. Eff an 86 I'd have a monaro or a ute, lol.

[Riftur]

Originally Posted by Insane

Not in Australia unfortunately.

And we get raped on all luxury /prestige/expensive cars, so even a late 2000's Porsche Cayman still costs almost 50k AUD.

Would it be cheaper to import one? Buy it and send it to a shop for the supercharger before sending it to Australia? I have no clue if you would be paying taxes on it twice or anything so this might sound idiotic. Just throwing out ideas

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Insane

and frankly I don't have enough money to be constantly replacing bits and pieces of the car as they break, over about $1500/year.*

A general rule for all car buyers:

If you don't have money to fix problems, don't buy a modified car... hell, don't go modding your car if you can't afford to fix whatever problems you cause by yourself.

It's that simple.

-alex

[Wise]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

You still didn't go in to what vettes handle worse. I mean with wide tires, light weight, and a fairly high revving v8 they were plenty light and nimble. Also used c6s are going for low to mid 20s now.... so... performance car bargain central.

Ha damn a C6 for mid 20's. That's about a third of what people charge for them in Australia, although they have to be imported privately and converted to RHD.

[Insane]

Originally Posted by Riftur

Would it be cheaper to import one? Buy it and send it to a shop for the supercharger before sending it to Australia? I have no clue if you would be paying taxes on it twice or anything so this might sound idiotic. Just throwing out ideas

Appreciate it, but no they get you every which way here, unless you buy a car whilst living overseas then ship it back to Australia.

I will be happy with a fast BRZ/86 I just have to find the right one!

[Insane]

I am thinking I am a lot happier with this particular vehicle, the price is significantly lower giving me a large budget for potential repairs/improvements.

https://carsales.mobi/cars/details/_/SSE-AD-4602787

[KR-S]

You would be Wise to avoid this car, and you are Insane for even thinking of buying it.

[Byza]

Originally Posted by Insane

Pretty much because he's pumped 30k into it, and it's now got the kind of performance I could never afford to give a 2017 86. Engineering here to make sure the turbo is all legal is about 5k by itself :/

Originally Posted by Insane

Appreciate it, but no they get you every which way here, unless you buy a car whilst living overseas then ship it back to Australia.

I will be happy with a fast BRZ/86 I just have to find the right one!

I run a business importing motors out of the US and Europe and looked into importing a car. Basically our laws make it very difficult, especially if it is a car you can get from an Australian dealership. Even to bring in a 69 Camero I was going to need to have the car dismantled and brought in separate shipments as parts to make it worthwhile.

Apparently next year or so this will be changing to allow parallel grey imports but for now it's not really an option.

That being said, a lot of our new cars aren't actually too badly priced. New 86 in California is MSRP USD$26,255 or AUD$35,900 roughly. 86 in QLD new is AUD$33,090 rrp. The luxury car tax is a joke though.

[Insane]

Originally Posted by Byza

I run a business importing motors out of the US and Europe and looked into importing a car. Basically our laws make it very difficult, especially if it is a car you can get from an Australian dealership. Even to bring in a 69 Camero I was going to need to have the car dismantled and brought in separate shipments as parts to make it worthwhile.

Apparently next year or so this will be changing to allow parallel grey imports but for now it's not really an option.

That being said, a lot of our new cars aren't actually too badly priced. New 86 in California is MSRP USD$26,255 or AUD$35,900 roughly. 86 in QLD new is AUD$33,090 rrp. The luxury car tax is a joke though.

Agreed. The 86 / BRZ is honestly the first car I've heard of where our pricing is in line/better than the rest of the world.