Toyota FT-86 II Concept to be unveiled at Geneva!!!

[Dark]

Originally Posted by NESW20

say what? clearance for what?

AWD... re-read his post dude.

Honestly, I prefer RWD over AWD. I know USA Subaru line is AWD, but adding 1 RWD doesn't kill the brand. It may make the brand more appeal to enthusiasts because Subaru is starting to be like Toyota, bland and boring.

[cyde01]

why would ride height clearance make any difference in whether awd is feasible or not

[NESW20]

Originally Posted by Dark

AWD... re-read his post dude.

Honestly, I prefer RWD over AWD. I know USA Subaru line is AWD, but adding 1 RWD doesn't kill the brand. It may make the brand more appeal to enthusiasts because Subaru is starting to be like Toyota, bland and boring.

right, like i said, clearance for what? read what cyde wrote. that is exactly the point i was making. what the hell do you need "clearance" for with an AWD system? my reading comprehension skills are very good, thank you.

Originally Posted by cyde01

why would ride height clearance make any difference in whether awd is feasible or not

^^^this.

[Dark]

Originally Posted by NESW20

right, like i said, clearance for what? read what cyde wrote. that is exactly the point i was making. what the hell do you need "clearance" for with an AWD system? my reading comprehension skills are very good, thank you.



^^^this.

I was like WTF, that why I laughed.

[RRnold]

Maybe he wants to take it to the snow since he's from Canada...

[NESW20]

his comment about "clearance" for AWD still makes zero sense, haha. i really wish he would get back on and explain.

[ERA]

i like the new look.

havent photoshopped in a while:

[matadormi5]

Originally Posted by Dark

Honestly, I prefer RWD over AWD. I know USA Subaru line is AWD, but adding 1 RWD doesn't kill the brand. It may make the brand more appeal to enthusiasts because Subaru is starting to be like Toyota, bland and boring.

I really think the Scooby needs to be AWD. It's a brand image thing, and there isn't enough badge-whores around to justify it. Ex. Porsche Cheyenne and Panamera, both saw great sales success b/c of the Porsche badge lovers, even though the cars are as far off as a pure Porsche should be.

By developing this car as a team, Toyota and Subaru technically built two cars for the price of one. They need to market them as two different cars.

If Toyota/Subaru differentiate their own FT-86's enough, this can be a huge sales WIN. I assume Toyota's RWD 86 will be for the driving purist, a person who would die to have a $20k Lotus.

Now the Subaru will have to target the more mature audience (which they already do) to avoid stealing Toyota's thunder. Their 86 should be more comfortable, safer, and a better daily driver no matter where you live (AWD!)

If what I'm hearing is correct, and the only difference between the two is going to be a few cosmetic tweaks...man, that's one stupid ass decision.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by matadormi5

I really think the Scooby needs to be AWD. It's a brand image thing, and there isn't enough badge-whores around to justify it. Ex. Porsche Cheyenne and Panamera, both saw great sales success b/c of the Porsche badge lovers, even though the cars are as far off as a pure Porsche should be.

By developing this car as a team, Toyota and Subaru technically built two cars for the price of one. They need to market them as two different cars.

If Toyota/Subaru differentiate their own FT-86's enough, this can be a huge sales WIN. I assume Toyota's RWD 86 will be for the driving purist, a person who would die to have a $20k Lotus.

Now the Subaru will have to target the more mature audience (which they already do) to avoid stealing Toyota's thunder. Their 86 should be more comfortable, safer, and a better daily driver no matter where you live (AWD!)

If what I'm hearing is correct, and the only difference between the two is going to be a few cosmetic tweaks...man, that's one stupid ass decision.

*Note to old members here*
Be nice & don't flame him too much

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by NESW20

say what? clearance for what?

Obviously for the extremely large front and rear solid axles necessary for all hardcore AWD cars.

Goddamit noobs...

[70NYD]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

*Note to old members here*
Be nice & don't flame him too much

Trust me I'm biting my virtual tounge at the moment. Few more spews like that and I dunno whats gonna happen but :p

[Snaps]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

*Note to old members here*
Be nice & don't flame him too much

[NESW20]

Originally Posted by Dimman

Obviously for the extremely large front and rear solid axles necessary for all hardcore AWD cars.

Goddamit noobs...

lulz

[Calais]

Originally Posted by matadormi5

I really think the Scooby needs to be AWD. It's a brand image thing, and there isn't enough badge-whores around to justify it. Ex. Porsche Cheyenne and Panamera, both saw great sales success b/c of the Porsche badge lovers, even though the cars are as far off as a pure Porsche should be.

By developing this car as a team, Toyota and Subaru technically built two cars for the price of one. They need to market them as two different cars.

If Toyota/Subaru differentiate their own FT-86's enough, this can be a huge sales WIN. I assume Toyota's RWD 86 will be for the driving purist, a person who would die to have a $20k Lotus.

Now the Subaru will have to target the more mature audience (which they already do) to avoid stealing Toyota's thunder. Their 86 should be more comfortable, safer, and a better daily driver no matter where you live (AWD!)

If what I'm hearing is correct, and the only difference between the two is going to be a few cosmetic tweaks...man, that's one stupid ass decision.

UNDERLINED: umm youve just contradicted yourself there buddy your Ex. shows that even if the Subie version comes in RWD sales would be good because they want the Subaru badge??


BOLD: So let me get this right. What your saying is Subarus NEW smallest car should be a Legacy, yes?