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Old 09-15-2014, 01:35 PM   #169
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So the only changes in the US93 Tune compared to the EU Tune is the Ignition timing - advance Base timing B table? so just copying that table in the EU tune should do it?
Yes the only difference between 91/93 tunes is 'base timing B" table , so just edit or copy it from the appropriate 93 tune. Just do a compare between the usa 91/93 tunes just to be sure.
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only thing im concerned about is the high (13) afr before 4300 rpms. is that a issue?

Open your tune file and then look at the "Primary Open Loop Fuel" Table the AFR should follow the values in that table under load in open loop.

Probably where you have to average/adjust the values from the open loop and closed loop maf scaling. You could tweek the maf scaling a bit if your kean.
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Old 09-15-2014, 01:52 PM   #171
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Open your tune file and then look at the "Primary Open Loop Fuel" Table the AFR should follow the values in that table under load in open loop.

Probably where you have to average/adjust the values from the open loop and closed loop maf scaling. You could tweek the maf scaling a bit if your kean.

ill have to look at that when i get home
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Im new to all this tuning and logging. Can anyone tell me is this good or not? I'm running stage on 1 oct91. The mod i have are AEM ETI intake, Motiv Test pipe, 2.5 perrin catback res. I would appreciated. It will be long learning process to understand this. =)
http://www.datazap.me/u/benlaz88/1-run?log=0&data=1
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Old 09-15-2014, 04:40 PM   #173
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Yes the only difference between 91/93 tunes is 'base timing B" table , so just edit or copy it from the appropriate 93 tune. Just do a compare between the usa 91/93 tunes just to be sure.
When I compare images there seem to be 3 differences between the 93 and 91US map
Base Timing B
Idle speed stability B
Ignition Timing Compensation MAP Delta (Clutch Depressed)
However when I compare the EU UEL map with the US 93 UEL map I get Equal tables 70 Changed tables 219 and missing tables 119
I'm new to this stuff but is there really that much of a difference between the EU and US map or am I doing something wrong?
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When I compare images there seem to be 3 differences between the 93 and 91US map
Base Timing B
Idle speed stability B
Ignition Timing Compensation MAP Delta (Clutch Depressed)
However when I compare the EU UEL map with the US 93 UEL map I get Equal tables 70 Changed tables 219 and missing tables 119
I'm new to this stuff but is there really that much of a difference between the EU and US map or am I doing something wrong?
As you found comparing ROM's from different series can yeild weird results as the def files are different and may contain extra or missing tables not defined in the other ROM series.

Its just the base timing B you need just copy the difference to your rom it will just be the higher rpm timing. about 1 degree difference from memory.
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As you found comparing ROM's from different series can yeild weird results as the def files are different and may contain extra or missing tables not defined in the other ROM series.

Its just the base timing B you need just copy the difference to your rom it will just be the higher rpm timing. about 1 degree difference from memory.
Yeah just noticed comparing a different UEL 93US Rom to the EU room only had 2 difference's :p it's even more complicated than I thought :p anyway thanks for the help
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Im new to all this tuning and logging. Can anyone tell me is this good or not? I'm running stage on 1 oct91. The mod i have are AEM ETI intake, Motiv Test pipe, 2.5 perrin catback res. I would appreciated. It will be long learning process to understand this. =)
http://www.datazap.me/u/benlaz88/1-run?log=0&data=1
Read @steve99 's OFT tutorials and tips in his signature and I promise you will learn a LOT about logging and what's normal. For starters, turn off VVT intake and exhaust and log FLKC and maybe IAT instead.
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I don't see anything obviously wrong with the file. Please email me at shiv@openflashperformance.com and we can troubleshoot
Installed OpenFlash Manager on a different PC, updated the OFT firmware and everything went smoothly! Sorry for bothering and thanks again for the excellent work done! Will be testing v2.06 tomorrow
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Loaded up all the new goodies but haven't been for a real run in the car yet but just want to say thanks to the team at OFT and Steve99 for all the hard work and helpful advice and how freely they share their knowledge.
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v2.06 Stage 2 UEL tune Idle Dip issue

I loaded up the v2.06 Stage 2 UEL 91 octane this past weekend. I've been noticing that the idle dip when AC is on has returned. This is issue wasn't present in the previous B01C tunes since it was based on the stock ROM that fixed the idle dip. Anyone else seeing this?
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I loaded up the v2.06 Stage 2 UEL 91 octane this past weekend. I've been noticing that the idle dip when AC is on has returned. This is issue wasn't present in the previous B01C tunes since it was based on the stock ROM that fixed the idle dip. Anyone else seeing this?
The B01C tunes are still based on B01C software so all the idle stability fixes are still there. But after each ECU, there could be several days of ECU learning required in order for idle stability to be at 10/10ths.
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@shiv, is the toyXXX.dev file no longer included in the download?
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@shiv, is the toyXXX.dev file no longer included in the download?
It wasn't included because the .bin files are all available. No sense in loading a .dev file when you have access to the .bin files
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