2013 Scion FR-S Priced at $24,200 ($24,930 after destination)

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by klch

Pretty reasonable price, considering it's a completely new platform, you guys have no idea how much investment they need to develop a new FR platform.

Some people still don't get it, they just compare the hp numbers and price, FRS & BRZ is not about the numbers, it's about the driving feel and handling refinement

This car is going to be on a long production cycle. Think closer to 7-10 years before the 2nd gen. Lowers cost.

Secondly, this car was a joint project between TMC and FHI. Automatically cuts costs to 50/50 60/40 or whatever it was. Lowers cost.

Thirdly, the car uses many off the shelf parts shared with other cars already in production. Lowers cost.

FHI already had assembly line capable of producing the car without having to build a new plant. Lowers cost.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by fatoni

you can have a mustang gt for under 26 through truecar.com

Yep, which just blows my mind.






M3 performance for $26k. If only it was lighter and smaller.

[bestwheelbase]

Originally Posted by Re_Invention

...the folks dismissing the car based upon $2,000, good riddance. Save your posts on how superior x,y,z car is because of stats - Hahah the same posters who gagged on the 'driving joy' and 'getting it' rhetoric

Woo hoo!

Not dismissing it -- just bummed it didn't make a stronger statement that you can create a fun package for "just over twenty." We are now in the territory of "getting close to thirty." (Once optional aero & wheels are fitted, it's going to add up.)

In the big scheme of things this is still a remarkable car at a remarkable price. Some of us just hoped it would be cheaper. No harm in that!

[SeaWall]

A BIG FUCK NO

[Frost]

Originally Posted by fatoni

none of that makes any sense. 2-3k is a big deal no matter how you look at it. its not about not being able to afford something its about being willing to afford something. the miata has an msrp that is out of control but you dont have to pay that especially if you simply wait until the winter months. its stupid to criticize the genesis for being too much but then ciriticize the miata for being not enough in the same breath. if you appreciate light weight, the miata is the better car. if you want power, a genesis (or better yet a mustang) is a better car. its tough to look at this as a high value purchase. i dont know where you get your opinions because it looks pretty bleak on paper and i doubt you have seen the car in any other way.

Sure it does. Do you guys know time value of money? $22,200 vs $24,200. That's $2000 over the life of a 4 year car loan on average. Most people never buy a car in cash so in terms of monthly payments, it doesn't mean that much more per month. People who only look at bottom line are forgetting everything along the way.

I can understand if people were complaining about $4-6k over the original estimates. If this car was going to sell for $27-29, I woulda balked.

As for my comparo's, I meant to say the Gen 2.0T is a different beast entirely. On that same note, the MX5 is slightly different too (less hp BUT less weight!) but the MX5 is the closest to the FR-S. The Gen 2.0T is more better compared to the 1 series, 'Stang, etc. More a french knife than a surgeon's scalpel (FR-S / MX-5).

As for whoever said my Gen 2.0T cost is off, I got it off of Hyundai.com using zip code 14120.

EDIT: Interesting, if you enter a zip code further south in the US, the Gen 2.0T price drops. I guess they are trying to deter us Canucks from hopping the border and buying US cars into Canada.

[bestwheelbase]

Originally Posted by SeaWall

A BIG FUCK NO

I appreciate your candor.

[subatoy]

Originally Posted by wichiewichie

This car was designed without compromises as a true sports car. Something the Veloster and the Genesis aren't.

wow! marketing got to you good huh?!

[CXTKRS1]

I decided to pop in when I heard the price was revealed. Prices came out as expected and puts the FRS in pace with a lot of cars on the market. The FRS isn't the most horrible deal in the world but their are are quite a few options for people to pick from such as the MS3, MX5, GC, V6 pony cars and some others. What does the FRS weigh? I thought it was 2500 but I have been seeing some specs that say 2800.

[Heero]

Originally Posted by Bristecom

I'm surprised at how many people no longer want to buy this car because it is ~2k more than they wanted it to be. That's like $30 more a month. I mean, if it started at $27k, then I could understand but at ~$24k, it's still the best car for the money IMO. If you really wanted this car, you would find a way to pay that extra 30 a month. Save longer, work harder, or as Jeremy Clarkson would say, "Sell the house, sell the children for medical experiments, rob a bank, and you'll soon get that money."

I will be the first person in my family to purchase a car for more then 20k, so its a big deal. My dad already thinks I'm an idiot ^^

I have enough cash to buy the car, but now my decision is... should I buy this car or finance a 128 for 8-10 extra (probably less then 8) over 3 years.

Will Canadian pricing be released tom too? If Scion does Canada a solid and makes pricing on Par, I will buy this car, if not...

But then again I can imagine the bitching & moaningg.

Originally Posted by pastuch

The most Scion charges for any model above the US price is 8.5%. Assuming it's a little worse here, think more like $26500 or $27000. I bet it matches the price of the base Genesis Coupe 2.0T which is 26500. The difference is that Hyundai offers giant cash rebates (Usually $2500) if you pay cash and they sell at the invoice price. That's the big question, if I can get an R-spec 2.0T for less money than a BASE FRS then it'll be hard to turn it down.

26500 is still pricy at a low. Thats what... 32 on the road? 8-10k extra still gets me a nice 128. Decisions.

[zoomzoomers]

Originally Posted by RRnold

Some people have the disposable income to pay cash for a car and a few members posted up about it. TBH, that's another reason for me to wait. I was planning to do 50/50 but if I wait, I could put at least 70% down.

Even with the interest rates this low, it's still borrowed money that the bank is charging you. The good thing about it is that it's very low compared to what it used to be 4-5% APR before the economy tanked.

Guys what you do with your money is completely your own business, but let me make you guys think for a moment. Right now you can easily get 5 to 6 year loand for 2.5 to 3.0%. Depending on your credit rating, etc., etc. IMHO, you'd be foolish not to finance and use someone else's, the bank's, money and use your own money for something better. Oh like invest it or take it for a walk. If you down pay 10% on a $30k car with rates like 3.0% you're talking about a few hundred dollars over the life of the loan. Chump change.

I was going to pay cash myself until I did some research and it seems I'd be outta my mind not to finance when using someone else's money is so damn cheap right now. I could use that same money I was going to pay for the car with and use it for down payment on another proprety, which I think I just might do. So food for thought guys...

[Dimman]

So we find out tomorrow if this is legit or not? No official announcement tomorrow = more bloody waiting...

[Re_Invention]

Originally Posted by bestwheelbase

Not dismissing it -- just bummed it didn't make a stronger statement that you can create a fun package for "just over twenty." We are now in the territory of "getting close to thirty." (Once optional aero & wheels are fitted, it's going to add up.)

In the big scheme of things this is still a remarkable car at a remarkable price. Some of us just hoped it would be cheaper. No harm in that!

Indeed :happy0180:

[sprintertrueno86]

What if the actual FRS price is higher than 24,200?

[Zgrinch]

Originally Posted by sprintertrueno86

What if the actual FRS price is higher than 24,200?

I'd hate to imagine. Becuase this thread is going to go off like firecrackers.