Android 4.3 worse than 4.1 for bluetooth? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

mid_life_crisis · 01-31-2014, 01:50 PM

Anyone else have problems making outgoing calls from their H/U after their phone upgraded? I have the same H/U that is now the base in all '14 Scions.
I loved how well my phone and the car worked together (not so much the music player but that's another thing). But after the upgrade on my phone, I can no longer make calls through the H/U. I can place calls from the phone and they work through the H/U and I can answer incoming calls, but if I try to place a call using the H/U it goes all the way to the point where it is about to dial and tells me that it can't place the call because the phone is not connected.
If I take the time to completely break the link between them and re-add the phone, it will work until the next time I get in/out of the car. Suffice to say that this is not acceptable.
Anyone else have this problem? Got a fix? I would prefer not to revert to 4.1 because there are other changes that I like.

mid_life_crisis · 02-01-2014, 11:24 AM

I found another broken function. It used to be that if I was playing something that was stored on my phone by bluetooth then switched to Pandora, the H/U would seamlessly start displaying the new song information. Now bluetooth always displays the last thing I played from the phone's memory, even if I had used other sources in between.

mid_life_crisis · 02-02-2014, 12:27 AM

It appears that the problem is that 4.3 upgraded bluetooth to 4.0 from whatever it was before (3.x) and there was some fundamental change that threw the communication off.
I'm looking into downgrading bluetooth on the phone.

turbos86 · 02-03-2014, 11:39 PM

Any luck on this?

I've upgraded my phone to 4.4.2 kitkat and the phone capability of the touchscreen head unit is now completely non-existence. I can make and receive calls on the head unit itself over bluetooth, but no sound on both end of the call.

Oddly, I can still bluetooth stream music from phone over to the head unit.

Have tried to unpaired and paired again with no success.

bedabi · 02-03-2014, 11:43 PM

I'm having similar issues with my BRZ. It sometimes helps if I restart the phone (Galaxy S4) but this is not a real solution. Any tips would be appreciated.

DC2R · 02-04-2014, 12:02 AM

Audio sucks on 14 bespoke. Sounds like speakers are blown over Bluetooth streaming

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DC2R · 02-04-2014, 12:02 AM

Oh note 3 with TouchWiz 4.3

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mid_life_crisis · 02-04-2014, 10:09 AM

My saga got worse. I went to the Samsung store at the local BestBuy and all they could suggest was doing a reset of my Note2. Now the only phone book the car sees is the damned AT&T one, which I don't use. I open contacts on the phone and they are there (mostly) but I get an empty phone book on the H/U.

robot · 02-04-2014, 04:41 PM

4.4 and the second gen of 4.3 bluetooth radios seem to work. (I tried via AoKP on an S3).

1ucky11 · 02-09-2014, 09:13 PM

I just got a samsung note 3, and the stock hu doesn't even transfer contacts, and don't even make calls... whats going on??

1ucky11 · 02-09-2014, 09:18 PM

Hey guys, I've noticed under my bt settings in my phone, there is a visibility timeout. It was set to 2 mins. I just set it to never timeout. I'll see if that works

1ucky11 · 02-09-2014, 09:44 PM

Ok guys it didnt work. I can play pandora and iheart radio just fine. But everytime I try to transfer contacts bluetooth disconnects... sigh

DC2R · 02-11-2014, 12:52 AM

Hmmmm just connected my friend's iPhone via Bluetooth and it sounds amazing

Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk

mid_life_crisis · 02-11-2014, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1ucky11

I just got a samsung note 3, and the stock hu doesn't even transfer contacts, and don't even make calls... whats going on??

Mine is an AT&T Note 2. It worked fine under 4.1 but as soon as it updated to 4.3 things went south. My original thought was that bluetooth was the problem but I no longer believe that. I think it is just a poorly written implementation by their developers. I just dumped the factory rom and went to a custom one based off Kitkat (the latest) and everything appears to work with the car again.
The only problem I have has nothing to do with the car, and that is that the contacts will only read off the simm and don't download from my Google account.

01-31-2014, 01:50 PM	#1
mid_life_crisis Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: FR-S 10 #103 AT Location: NC Posts: 1,519 Thanks: 101 Thanked 599 Times in 347 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Android 4.3 worse than 4.1 for bluetooth? Anyone else have problems making outgoing calls from their H/U after their phone upgraded? I have the same H/U that is now the base in all '14 Scions. I loved how well my phone and the car worked together (not so much the music player but that's another thing). But after the upgrade on my phone, I can no longer make calls through the H/U. I can place calls from the phone and they work through the H/U and I can answer incoming calls, but if I try to place a call using the H/U it goes all the way to the point where it is about to dial and tells me that it can't place the call because the phone is not connected. If I take the time to completely break the link between them and re-add the phone, it will work until the next time I get in/out of the car. Suffice to say that this is not acceptable. Anyone else have this problem? Got a fix? I would prefer not to revert to 4.1 because there are other changes that I like. __________________ Necessity may be the mother of Invention but Desperation is quite often the father. “Sex is like Bridge. If you don't have a good partner, you'd better have a good hand.” - Mae West Papa said, "son there's a lot of evil temptations out there. Best to try 'em all so you know which ones to avoid."

02-01-2014, 11:24 AM	#2
mid_life_crisis Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: FR-S 10 #103 AT Location: NC Posts: 1,519 Thanks: 101 Thanked 599 Times in 347 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I found another broken function. It used to be that if I was playing something that was stored on my phone by bluetooth then switched to Pandora, the H/U would seamlessly start displaying the new song information. Now bluetooth always displays the last thing I played from the phone's memory, even if I had used other sources in between. __________________ Necessity may be the mother of Invention but Desperation is quite often the father. “Sex is like Bridge. If you don't have a good partner, you'd better have a good hand.” - Mae West Papa said, "son there's a lot of evil temptations out there. Best to try 'em all so you know which ones to avoid."

02-02-2014, 12:27 AM	#3
mid_life_crisis Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: FR-S 10 #103 AT Location: NC Posts: 1,519 Thanks: 101 Thanked 599 Times in 347 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It appears that the problem is that 4.3 upgraded bluetooth to 4.0 from whatever it was before (3.x) and there was some fundamental change that threw the communication off. I'm looking into downgrading bluetooth on the phone. __________________ Necessity may be the mother of Invention but Desperation is quite often the father. “Sex is like Bridge. If you don't have a good partner, you'd better have a good hand.” - Mae West Papa said, "son there's a lot of evil temptations out there. Best to try 'em all so you know which ones to avoid."

02-04-2014, 10:09 AM	#8
mid_life_crisis Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: FR-S 10 #103 AT Location: NC Posts: 1,519 Thanks: 101 Thanked 599 Times in 347 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My saga got worse. I went to the Samsung store at the local BestBuy and all they could suggest was doing a reset of my Note2. Now the only phone book the car sees is the damned AT&T one, which I don't use. I open contacts on the phone and they are there (mostly) but I get an empty phone book on the H/U. __________________ Necessity may be the mother of Invention but Desperation is quite often the father. “Sex is like Bridge. If you don't have a good partner, you'd better have a good hand.” - Mae West Papa said, "son there's a lot of evil temptations out there. Best to try 'em all so you know which ones to avoid."

02-04-2014, 04:41 PM	#9
robot There are now 2 carseats! Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: 2013 DGM BRZ Location: The Emerald City Posts: 434 Thanks: 21 Thanked 166 Times in 75 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	4.4 and the second gen of 4.3 bluetooth radios seem to work. (I tried via AoKP on an S3). __________________ I'm selling my car my NEW NEW custom gauge project...it replaces the clock [play external video on your headunit (gauges on your stereo)...hidden menus DIY...removing your headunit without scratching everything up DIY

02-03-2014, 11:39 PM	#4
turbos86 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2014 Zenki 37J Location: Earth Posts: 137 Thanks: 121 Thanked 86 Times in 35 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Any luck on this? I've upgraded my phone to 4.4.2 kitkat and the phone capability of the touchscreen head unit is now completely non-existence. I can make and receive calls on the head unit itself over bluetooth, but no sound on both end of the call. Oddly, I can still bluetooth stream music from phone over to the head unit. Have tried to unpaired and paired again with no success.

02-03-2014, 11:43 PM	#5
bedabi Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: '13 CBS BRZ Location: WNY Posts: 75 Thanks: 592 Thanked 39 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm having similar issues with my BRZ. It sometimes helps if I restart the phone (Galaxy S4) but this is not a real solution. Any tips would be appreciated.

02-04-2014, 12:02 AM	#6
DC2R Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: 2014 Scion FR-S Location: United States Posts: 1,021 Thanks: 699 Thanked 159 Times in 132 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Audio sucks on 14 bespoke. Sounds like speakers are blown over Bluetooth streaming Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk

02-09-2014, 09:13 PM	#10
1ucky11 Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S whiteout Location: North Carolina Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I just got a samsung note 3, and the stock hu doesn't even transfer contacts, and don't even make calls... whats going on??

02-09-2014, 09:18 PM	#11
1ucky11 Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S whiteout Location: North Carolina Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hey guys, I've noticed under my bt settings in my phone, there is a visibility timeout. It was set to 2 mins. I just set it to never timeout. I'll see if that works

02-09-2014, 09:44 PM	#12
1ucky11 Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S whiteout Location: North Carolina Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ok guys it didnt work. I can play pandora and iheart radio just fine. But everytime I try to transfer contacts bluetooth disconnects... sigh

02-11-2014, 12:52 AM	#13
DC2R Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: 2014 Scion FR-S Location: United States Posts: 1,021 Thanks: 699 Thanked 159 Times in 132 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hmmmm just connected my friend's iPhone via Bluetooth and it sounds amazing Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk

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