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Old 11-14-2013, 12:50 AM   #43
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There's one available on ebay for cheap. I had this in my shopping cart for a while. Honestly not sure what a new one costs. It may take some work as that button is integrated into some electronic circuitry (see previous page of this post) but it might be doable...

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I took apart the MT buttons.

Honestly, with a bit of ingenuity, I think you'd be able to get them to work as is.

Mechanically speaking, the MT buttons are pretty much the same as the AT. The center blank is still a button, and it's still hinged in the middle, but it's got a wide flange around it that keeps it from moving. If you trimmed the flange, you could get it to move. The PCB is the same but the two rubber membranes that short out the AT buttons are gone. If you could find the right part, they could be added back in. There's no control logic on the button PCB either. There is one common pin and then each button shorts its own pin to the common pin. So there's three pins on the MT (TCS, VSC, common) and five on the AT (TCS, VSC, Snow, Sport, common) plus I think two pins that are just for lighting. I am not sure if the common pin is vehicle ground or what, I haven't measured. But the traces are all there, there may even be the additional pins in the connector (I don't remember, it's been months since I took them apart), You'd still need to find a way to connect into the HU. I wouldn't feel comfortable connecting the SWC common pin on the HU to the common pin on the buttons, I don't know if they'd play nice.
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Old 11-14-2013, 10:13 AM   #45
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OP, you suck. Now I'm going to have to go through the same measuring process for the FR-S Pioneer radio.
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There's one in every crowd.

You have to take your eyes off the road to use the controls on the radio. Putting an arm rest on the center console and locating switches where he did, you can do it by touch.
Plus it's just a friggin cool bit of work.
More than one ? equals sarcasm.......

Yes it is cool.

....but real sports cars don't have radios either!!!!

btw, more than one ! equals the same thing as more than one ?
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on the BRZ, everything is touch screen, the buttons are tiny and its very annoying when you press it and nothing happens or you're on a bump and miss the button. having it on the wheel is no only convenient, but its less irritating.

also, please dont go around threads posting like a smart ass, it'll come bite you in the ass.
That is the best explanation as to why, the touch screen issue...

And see my above post........on a side note, http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...=jive%20turkey
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Pin 21:
Seek Up 0 Ohms
Seek Down 330 Ohms
Volume Up 1000 Ohms
Volume Down 3110 Ohms
No buttons 100K Ohms

Pin 22:
Mode 0 Ohms
On hook 330 Ohms
Off hook 1000 Ohms
Talk 3110 Ohms
No buttons 100K Ohms

Pin 23 is the common wire for the SWCs

I know the values are probably different, but does anyone know if the pinout is the same for all the HU's? In particular for the HU in the FR-S anniversary edition (now standard for 2014 Scions)?
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on the BRZ, everything is touch screen, the buttons are tiny and its very annoying when you press it and nothing happens or you're on a bump and miss the button. having it on the wheel is no only convenient, but its less irritating.
Exactly. Another side benefit is that you can change stations while in the navigation screen, which is nice.
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How did you end up connecting the 3 wires to the 28 pin connector?
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How did you end up connecting the 3 wires to the 28 pin connector?
I used the pins out of a front panel header from a computer case, they aren't exactly the right pins but they're close enough to fit in the connector. Not sure what fogelsre did.
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How did you end up connecting the 3 wires to the 28 pin connector?
I ordered these parts from Digikey so that I could have a disconnectable harness:

WM1856-ND - CONN PLUG 3POS 3MM SINGLE ROW
WM1846-ND - CONN RECEPT 3POS 3MM SINGLE ROW
WM1841-ND - CONN TERM MALE 20-24AWG TIN
WM1837-ND - CONN TERM FEMALE 20-24AWG TIN

The female connector terminals (the last item) fit the 28-pin harness perfectly.

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All I really need is next/previous track as volume up/down is a physical knob. A switch like the OP used could go in the blank spot used for sport/snow in the automatic, & you wouldn't have to relocate the heated seat controls.

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All I really need is next/previous track as volume up/down is a physical knob. A switch like the OP used could go in the blank spot used for sport/snow in the automatic, & you wouldn't have to relocate the heated seat controls.

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now it's just figuring out what components I can use with the space provided. But really it's just a idea nothing more lol
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I don't really see a need for volume control there, b/c of the readily available physical volume knob on the HU itself. Physical buttons for the touch screen are definitely helpful, but redundancy for the volume knob is adding unnecessary complexity for this DIY. With another HU, I'd say it's a good idea (like one with just volume up and down buttons like my last HU, the Pioneer App Radio 2), but for the stock Subaru HU....? Nah. If it's easily doable, then sure, but if it'd add some headaches I'd say leave it.

But that multi-function switch/knob idea is brilliant! I like! If you get the circuitry and programming devised and set up for easy DIY, I'd love to try it.
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