Subaru VIP Program

[devinclfalcons]

Can options/accessories be purchased at dealer cost as well? I guess it would be smart to get anything else you wanted when you purchased the car as well?

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by devinclfalcons

Can options/accessories be purchased at dealer cost as well? I guess it would be smart to get anything else you wanted when you purchased the car as well?

Only factory installed options. Dealer installed options are at whatever price the dealer normally charges (they have SRPs from the manufacturer but the dealer can technically charge whatever they want)

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Only factory installed options. Dealer installed options are at whatever price the dealer normally charges (they have SRPs from the manufacturer but the dealer can technically charge whatever they want)

Wife and I just bought a '12 Impreza Sport. 2% below invoice with invoice on dealer accessories. Part of our VIP program.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Wife and I just bought a '12 Impreza Sport. 2% below invoice with invoice on dealer accessories. Part of our VIP program.

Well according to Subaru that's not the way it should work. They probably just took the hit out of holdback to move the car or something.

Everything I've seen said it's 2% under the invoice the factory has for the car so dealer addons wouldn't qualify for that, but I guess that doesn't mean the dealer can't give you a discount on accessories.

[devinclfalcons]

I emailed my local dealer about VIP Pricing and here is the response:

"I am sure the VIP Pricing is Available , but I don't think Dealers will Do it . the Order bank is going to Open Soon . If you Order one with US I will sell it for $500 over Invoice."

I then asked why he thought dealers will not do VIP Pricing. He responded:

"We should be able to get the pricing in the Next 2 weeks or so. and as I told you before Dealers are going to get MSRP and more for the car once the car is here , there are 620 dealers in USA and they will produce between 450 to 500 a month . some dealers wont get any . if you can find a dealer that will sell it at Invoice you should put a deposit on it and buy the car. I will keep you posted on the pricing."

[Zgrinch]

Originally Posted by devinclfalcons

I emailed my local dealer about VIP Pricing and here is the response:

"I am sure the VIP Pricing is Available , but I don't think Dealers will Do it . the Order bank is going to Open Soon . If you Order one with US I will sell it for $500 over Invoice."

I then asked why he thought dealers will not do VIP Pricing. He responded:

"We should be able to get the pricing in the Next 2 weeks or so. and as I told you before Dealers are going to get MSRP and more for the car once the car is here , there are 620 dealers in USA and they will produce between 450 to 500 a month . some dealers wont get any . if you can find a dealer that will sell it at Invoice you should put a deposit on it and buy the car. I will keep you posted on the pricing."

The monthly production numbers must be correct, because I got the exact same monthly production figures from my Subaru dealer. I do not have to put a refundable deposit down until I actually order the car, but I am very high on their preorder list. The reason some dealers will not get the car is because it requires additional training and tools, which requires a small investment from the dealer.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by devinclfalcons

I emailed my local dealer about VIP Pricing and here is the response:

"I am sure the VIP Pricing is Available , but I don't think Dealers will Do it . the Order bank is going to Open Soon . If you Order one with US I will sell it for $500 over Invoice."

I then asked why he thought dealers will not do VIP Pricing. He responded:

"We should be able to get the pricing in the Next 2 weeks or so. and as I told you before Dealers are going to get MSRP and more for the car once the car is here , there are 620 dealers in USA and they will produce between 450 to 500 a month . some dealers wont get any . if you can find a dealer that will sell it at Invoice you should put a deposit on it and buy the car. I will keep you posted on the pricing."

My good local dealer believes they are getting 4-6 in the initial shipment. There are 4 of us on the list currently that I know of (it's not a public list yet). One person is getting 2 cars.

I agree some won't get any (nor should they if they are like some of the idiot dealerships I have around here) but any that sell a lot of STIs and WRXs will get plenty IMO.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by borge12

I know my dealer is going to honor VIP on it. I would look until you find someone who does.

Good to know that they plan to. Still assumes Subaru will honor it themselves I hope they do because I really don't want to resort to playing hardball with a dealership I actually like.

[devinclfalcons]

Originally Posted by borge12

I know my dealer is going to honor VIP on it. I would look until you find someone who does.

The question is how long will we have to wait before dealers will sell you a BRZ with VIP Pricing? If they can sell their pre-orders for MSRP, will we have to wait until they have several on the lot when they aren't selling so hot?

Here is another quote from my discussion with him about factory ordering with VIP Pricing:

"The Priority will be for the sold Orders. Most sold orders will be sold for $200-$500 Off MSRP and I am sure dealer would want to wait till the car is in and they will get more for it . No dealer would want to sell a VIP at 2% below Invoice , Not on a BRZ, We don't even do it on WRX's or STI's."

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by devinclfalcons

The question is how long will we have to wait before dealers will sell you a BRZ with VIP Pricing? If they can sell their pre-orders for MSRP, will we have to wait until they have several on the lot when they aren't selling so hot?

Here is another quote from my discussion with him about factory ordering with VIP Pricing:

"The Priority will be for the sold Orders. Most sold orders will be sold for $200-$500 Off MSRP and I am sure dealer would want to wait till the car is in and they will get more for it . No dealer would want to sell a VIP at 2% below Invoice , Not on a BRZ, We don't even do it on WRX's or STI's."

Seriously? Find a new dealer. Mastro does VIP on STIs without an issue, and even without it I think I was at invoice after 5 minutes of talking to them on an STI.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Well according to Subaru that's not the way it should work. They probably just took the hit out of holdback to move the car or something.

Everything I've seen said it's 2% under the invoice the factory has for the car so dealer addons wouldn't qualify for that, but I guess that doesn't mean the dealer can't give you a discount on accessories.

That is incorrect. Our VIP deal stipulates 2% below invoice on car and dealer invoice for accessories. Our car was a preorder directly from Subaru and not a lot car. Remember all VIP do not offer the same benefits. It differs. Some are 2% below invoice and some are at invoice. You need to check the details. We did not get any special deal, just what is stipulated by our programs agreement with SOA.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by devinclfalcons

I emailed my local dealer about VIP Pricing and here is the response:

"I am sure the VIP Pricing is Available , but I don't think Dealers will Do it . the Order bank is going to Open Soon . If you Order one with US I will sell it for $500 over Invoice."

I then asked why he thought dealers will not do VIP Pricing. He responded:

"We should be able to get the pricing in the Next 2 weeks or so. and as I told you before Dealers are going to get MSRP and more for the car once the car is here , there are 620 dealers in USA and they will produce between 450 to 500 a month . some dealers wont get any . if you can find a dealer that will sell it at Invoice you should put a deposit on it and buy the car. I will keep you posted on the pricing."

I have heard the same numbers from my dealer. First year of production will be limited to 3-4k units for the USA. So some dealers might only see 1-2 units per month. Dealer said they won't last on the lot for more than a few hours. List is already deep here.

Originally Posted by borge12

I know my dealer is going to honor VIP on it. I would look until you find someone who does.

Sure they might say VIP is good. But that doesn't mean SOA says yes. If SOA doesn't say yes, dealer doesn't get the price difference in kickback from SOA. Dealer will then say no since others will pay MSRP+.

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Good to know that they plan to. Still assumes Subaru will honor it themselves I hope they do because I really don't want to resort to playing hardball with a dealership I actually like.

Dealers will have upper hand on this car for the first 12-18 months as production catches up with demand. Dealer will get what they want. If you don't like it, they will just tell the next guy on the list and he will be happy to pay.

[devinclfalcons]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

I have heard the same numbers from my dealer. First year of production will be limited to 3-4k units for the USA. So some dealers might only see 1-2 units per month. Dealer said they won't last on the lot for more than a few hours. List is already deep here.





Sure they might say VIP is good. But that doesn't mean SOA says yes. If SOA doesn't say yes, dealer doesn't get the price difference in kickback from SOA. Dealer will then say no since others will pay MSRP+.



Dealers will have upper hand on this car for the first 12-18 months as production catches up with demand. Dealer will get what they want. If you don't like it, they will just tell the next guy on the list and he will be happy to pay.

So should we wait to hear about VIP Pricing or pre-order now?

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by devinclfalcons

So should we wait to hear about VIP Pricing or pre-order now?

Up to you. Do you want to be one of the first to get it? Are you willing to wait to make sure you get VIP pricing? Just make sure your deposit is refundable.