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Dave-ROR · 01-09-2012, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer

A proper factory installed HID kit > any aftermarket retro fit I have experienced using.

You can do a retrofit correctly, you just need to use actual HID projectors and make sure it's installed correctly. Still not as good as a stock S2000's (which are amazing HID projectors in a proper housing) but they will be much better than a PNP kit.

Kids Heart · 01-09-2012, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

Nice looking concept tho... Well, the gray one not the red one lol

The grey one is the TRU 140S. Front wheel drive dressed up eclipse. Try again

tranzformer · 01-09-2012, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lfawishes

I'm going to be incredibly UPSET if Scion choses to Cover and show the Formula D Scion at DAS. Wrong show for it, and really shitty way to take advantage of the hype of the car and not deliver for us.

It better be a second model, I'm not playing the oh yea we aren't going to roll out performance models for 2 years, go ahead and do that and I'll go ahead and move onto a different car.

The reality is subaru wants to build cheaper cars and charge more money for them, so we can't count on them either.

What asshole designs a strictly performance car and waits to deliver an actual performance model.

Really? FRS and BRZ seem like a good performance car to me. No STI or TRD is guaranteed to come to us yet.

ryun84 · 01-09-2012, 02:20 PM

And let's get even more specific:

OEM Projector HID systems > OEM non-projector HID systems or Retrofitted Projector HID systems >>>>> Aftermarket PnP HID kits

poormans_LFA · 01-09-2012, 02:21 PM

HUD units are pretty expensive to replace, yeh??

Snoopyalien24 · 01-09-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kids Heart

The grey one is the TRU 140S. Front wheel drive dressed up eclipse. Try again

Welllll in thaaat case

Forget it.

Dave-ROR · 01-09-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ryude

Vehicles equipped with HID headlamps from the factory have a headlamp lens cleaning systems and automatic beam levelling control. This reduces glare which can hurt other driver's ability to see. This is why aftermarket HID kits are not the same as factory xenon's.

Uhmm.. in Germany that's true. It's not true in the US. S2000s didn't have either. BiXenon cars have leveling of course.

The difference is primary in the projector and housing, not the ancillary systems.

tranzformer · 01-09-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

You can do a retrofit correctly, you just need to use actual HID projectors and make sure it's installed correctly. Still not as good as a stock S2000's (which are amazing HID projectors in a proper housing) but they will be much better than a PNP kit.

Which is why I was saying nothing I have experienced. Factory will always be superior to me than aftermarket.

ryude · 01-09-2012, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Uhmm.. in Germany that's true. It's not true in the US. S2000s didn't have either. BiXenon cars have leveling of course.

The difference is primary in the projector and housing, not the ancillary systems.

True, in the US it is not required. Probably why so many people complain about HID's hurting their eyes. Even factory equipped HID's in the US aren't the greatest.

Dave-ROR · 01-09-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ryun84

And let's get even more specific:

OEM Projector HID systems > OEM non-projector HID systems or Retrofitted Projector HID systems >>>>> Aftermarket PnP HID kits

I'd say OEM Projector HID > Proper Retrofit Projector HID > OEM Reflector HID systems > PNP HID Kits in Projectors > Projector Halogens > PNP HID kits in Reflectors > PNP HID kits with any tinted bulbs (like 6000k bulbs or the laughable 12k bulbs).

Syldrin · 01-09-2012, 02:25 PM

So i've been thinking the car under the tarp is going to be Ken's car. i mean it is a scion racing booth after all.

iff2mastamatt · 01-09-2012, 02:25 PM

Show me the LEDs!

Dave-ROR · 01-09-2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Syldrin

So i've been thinking the car under the tarp is going to be Ken's car. i mean it is a scion racing booth after all.

That is the most likely case.

Longhorn248 · 01-09-2012, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

You can do a retrofit correctly, you just need to use actual HID projectors and make sure it's installed correctly. Still not as good as a stock S2000's (which are amazing HID projectors in a proper housing) but they will be much better than a PNP kit.

+1 However I would say the best stock HID's are in the Acura TSX.

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Originally Posted by poormans_LFA

HUD units are pretty expensive to replace, yeh??

Are you asking about HID? or HUD (heads up display?) The only recent car I know with that is the Corvette.

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