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blu_ · 04-20-2012, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX

I think the 10/10ths thing indicates that it has very high limits for what it is. So if you're not pushing the limits, it's too capable.

Which, if true, is absolutely hilarious. Essentially, in trying to make a fun low-limit car, Toybaru has made the car TOO GOOD. They have effectively failed by succeeding.

But I think it might be more complex than that. I can't wait to read the article.

Keep dreaming. From what I've heard they complained about power being very peaky and lack of torque making it boring on normal roads.

FIREISFUN135 · 04-20-2012, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86design

x2 or article

Capt Canuck · 04-20-2012, 05:24 PM

And CAR magazine is going to have a slight twist on that:
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Magazin...azine-out-now/

Draco-REX · 04-20-2012, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blu_

Keep dreaming. From what I've heard they complained about power being very peaky and lack of torque making it boring on normal roads.

You did note the "if" and "But", right?

faz1 · 04-20-2012, 05:44 PM

Here goes...

faz1 · 04-20-2012, 05:48 PM

some more...

blu_ · 04-20-2012, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX

You did note the "if" and "But", right?

I'm just making fun of you.

faz1 · 04-20-2012, 05:55 PM

last of group test.

faz1 · 04-20-2012, 05:58 PM

Track Test.

faz1 · 04-20-2012, 06:01 PM

There are two other articles in the BRZ section (drive up from South of France to UK and comparison test with an original Impreza Turbo).

I'm afraid I don't have time to scan these now (I'm supposed to be packing to go on holiday!) but will upload after the weekend if anyone is interested.

Enjoy!

uspspro · 04-20-2012, 06:06 PM

I can't believe they wasted their time comparing the automatic.

Spaceywilly · 04-20-2012, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uspspro

I can't believe they wasted their time comparing the automatic.

Yeah, I have a feeling the longer gears, extra weight, and torque converter was a big part of the problem. Why would they waste their time? Oh well, still a good read. Between this and the Tsukuba videos though I am starting to wonder if I should wait for a more powerful version. I really wish they tested a manual... what a waste.

Chenslee · 04-20-2012, 06:10 PM

#1. Automatic
#2. No mention of turning off the VSC
#3. It's already been said the Subarus are a set up a little more stable.

So this is as surprising as it was at first.

Subaruwrxfan · 04-20-2012, 06:31 PM

I'm kinda surprised, I hate to be one of those annoying people that says "MORE POWER", but it really seems like the chassis is over-engineered for the power. I'm sure Subaru did this on purpose, but after reading that review, I'm not even gonna dare to think anymore about wider tires, and instead continuing to hope there's a lot of untapped potential lurking somewhere within the ECU, intake and exhaust.

04-20-2012, 05:24 PM	#17
Capt Canuck Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: BMW E36 323is Location: Bay Area, NorCal Posts: 685 Thanks: 47 Thanked 72 Times in 42 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	And CAR magazine is going to have a slight twist on that: http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Magazin...azine-out-now/ __________________

04-20-2012, 05:44 PM	#19
faz1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: Audi A1 Location: Worksop, Uk Posts: 116 Thanks: 11 Thanked 47 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Here goes... Attached Images

04-20-2012, 05:48 PM	#20
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04-20-2012, 05:55 PM	#22
faz1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: Audi A1 Location: Worksop, Uk Posts: 116 Thanks: 11 Thanked 47 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	last of group test. Attached Images

04-20-2012, 05:58 PM	#23
faz1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: Audi A1 Location: Worksop, Uk Posts: 116 Thanks: 11 Thanked 47 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Track Test. Attached Images

04-20-2012, 06:01 PM	#24
faz1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: Audi A1 Location: Worksop, Uk Posts: 116 Thanks: 11 Thanked 47 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There are two other articles in the BRZ section (drive up from South of France to UK and comparison test with an original Impreza Turbo). I'm afraid I don't have time to scan these now (I'm supposed to be packing to go on holiday!) but will upload after the weekend if anyone is interested. Enjoy!

04-20-2012, 06:06 PM	#25
uspspro Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: DGM BRZ, MR-S 3.5L V6 swap (sold) Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 602 Thanks: 28 Thanked 188 Times in 121 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I can't believe they wasted their time comparing the automatic.

04-20-2012, 06:10 PM	#27
Chenslee Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2015 Halo FR-S Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 67 Thanks: 36 Thanked 22 Times in 15 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	#1. Automatic #2. No mention of turning off the VSC #3. It's already been said the Subarus are a set up a little more stable. So this is as surprising as it was at first.

04-20-2012, 06:31 PM	#28
Subaruwrxfan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2015 Mustang EcoBoost Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 796 Thanks: 274 Thanked 195 Times in 89 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm kinda surprised, I hate to be one of those annoying people that says "MORE POWER", but it really seems like the chassis is over-engineered for the power. I'm sure Subaru did this on purpose, but after reading that review, I'm not even gonna dare to think anymore about wider tires, and instead continuing to hope there's a lot of untapped potential lurking somewhere within the ECU, intake and exhaust. __________________ Check out my BRZ videos on my YouTube page: youtube.com/subaruwrxfan

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