BRZ lowered on RaceComp Engineering springs! - Page 12 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Draco-REX · 05-22-2012, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Yup, we went back and forth on that for a while. Just didn't think we would do anything lower than that as it's past what we consider to be useful (for a lowering spring, not coilovers).

For those that aren't familiar with us, we usually have 2 versions of our springs. The RCE Yellow springs are generally the larger drop, and the RCE Black (aka "Regular Guy") springs are a more mild drop.

- Andrew

Well since I think the ride height with the Yellows is definitely liveable, looks like I'll go with Yellows this time around.

Are you taking Pre-orders?

Dimman · 05-22-2012, 06:24 PM

What are the rear bar diameters? WRX is 16mm, I think. BRZ 14mm?

Calum · 05-22-2012, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Agreed and it's something we'll most likely play with ourselves on our car soon!

Yup, we went back and forth on that for a while. Just didn't think we would do anything lower than that as it's past what we consider to be useful (for a lowering spring, not coilovers).

For those that aren't familiar with us, we usually have 2 versions of our springs. The RCE Yellow springs are generally the larger drop, and the RCE Black (aka "Regular Guy") springs are a more mild drop.

- Andrew

Will you guys be dynoing the FRS dampers as well, and developing parts separately for it. I keep reading that the dampers are stiffer on the FRS. Also, one of the reasons I'm going for the FRS is the more neutral handling and I really don't want to screw that up.

uspspro · 05-22-2012, 09:09 PM

What kind of ETA on coilovers?

Nice work guys!

Grimlock · 05-23-2012, 11:13 AM

Thanks for all the hard work, RCE! I'll be stopping by to chat when I get my car (which should be next week).

Racecomp Engineering · 05-23-2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Draco-REX

Well since I think the ride height with the Yellows is definitely liveable, looks like I'll go with Yellows this time around.

Are you taking Pre-orders?

Working that out soon.

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Originally Posted by Dimman

What are the rear bar diameters? WRX is 16mm, I think. BRZ 14mm?

I think that's right. STI is 19mm. EDIT: Current STI is 19, i think previous versions were smaller.

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Originally Posted by Calum

Will you guys be dynoing the FRS dampers as well, and developing parts separately for it. I keep reading that the dampers are stiffer on the FRS. Also, one of the reasons I'm going for the FRS is the more neutral handling and I really don't want to screw that up.

Yes, we plan to dyno the FRS dampers as well to see if they require a different spring. The BRZ is very balanced with our springs.

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Originally Posted by uspspro

What kind of ETA on coilovers?

Nice work guys!

Thanks! We're also hoping for a summer release for the coilovers.

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Originally Posted by Grimlock

Thanks for all the hard work, RCE! I'll be stopping by to chat when I get my car (which should be next week).

Sounds good! We're thinking about having an "I've got my BRZ/FRS" party sometime this summer too and we will have ride-alongs in cars with our parts on them.

- Andrew

Grimlock · 05-23-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Sounds good! We're thinking about having an "I've got my BRZ/FRS" party sometime this summer too and we will have ride-alongs in cars with our parts on them.

- Andrew

Great! I live (literally) 2 miles from your shop, so I'm very excited about your products and services.

mattles · 05-23-2012, 12:13 PM

I believe the factory FRS springs are the same rate front:back -- so your solution of the same ratio but slightly stiffer should retain all of the stock characteristics quite nicely.

Fly Guy · 05-23-2012, 07:29 PM

I've read that the FR-S springs are about 10% softer up front. Looking forward to the RCE springs for it.

blu_ · 05-23-2012, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mattles

I believe the factory FRS springs are the same rate front:back -- so your solution of the same ratio but slightly stiffer should retain all of the stock characteristics quite nicely.

the brz rates are the same. frs should be slightly softer in the front.

mattles · 05-23-2012, 07:35 PM

Oh well then it seems I am incorrect! Interested to see what rates will be offered for the FR-S then. :O

Draco-REX · 05-23-2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Working that out soon.

Can't wait to get the go ahead. You'll have an order for springs and lowering plates. And if the RCA kit is available, that too.

And depending on how the car likes those with the stickier tires, sways may be in the future as well.

Calum · 05-23-2012, 07:50 PM

The lower ride height and resulting suspension geometry changes should make the even rates of the RC spring act very similar to the FRS. I'm just being nit pickey.

ultra · 05-26-2012, 05:26 PM

Thanks RCE for jumping in and engineering some proper, functional upgrades.

Can't wait till the finished products hit your site.

P.S. Will you be offering kits which include roll centre adjustment & camber solutions?

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