Predict the Nurburgring Lap Time for the FT-86

[RegisBou]

Originally Posted by madfast

correction. it already has good grip.

correction again. it already has good rubber on it.

so even if you knew drift cars ran sticky rubber, the way you said it was poor and anyone reading it may think drift cars simply use crappy tires to spin them.

The FRS has Prius tires. Which is bullshit for handling but not for drifting.

So a change in tires could shave off 10-20 seconds given that this track is mostly turns and all about corner exit speed for the longer faster turns/straights.

The tight corners are downhill in the begining of the track but then near the end they go up hill and back to down.

The prius tires will be too hot by then and will lose a lot of grip and reduce braking performance.

So no, the FRS does not have good rubber.

Now if you are talking about a completely different car, i apologize for this reply. Either way it explains why the FRS lap times should be negated UNTIL a version with better rubber comes out.

[cossey]

Originally Posted by ydooby

Our famed 86 enthusiast motohide/Moto-P (Moto Miwa) recently mentioned that Mr. Tada told him several months ago that the stock 86 test mule had already "narrowly beaten the lap time of the Subaru WRX Sti during testing on the Nurburgring a several months ago". Since the official lap record of the WRX STi (last-gen nevertheless) is 8:24, it can be inferred that the 86 can do faster than 8:24, which would make it faster than a lot of cars with much higher horsepower including the 335i (whose record stands at 8:26).
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/6888287-post1907.html

Sounds realistic. Renault have managed to get a FWD hot hatch round in 8.04 (all be it with 265 bhp and sticky tires) The low CoG should help a bit.

[Levi]

A well built GT86 (TRD) good come close to 8 min. There is alot of potential.

[Matador]

Originally Posted by ydooby

Our famed 86 enthusiast motohide/Moto-P (Moto Miwa) recently mentioned that Mr. Tada told him several months ago that the stock 86 test mule had already "narrowly beaten the lap time of the Subaru WRX Sti during testing on the Nurburgring a several months ago". Since the official lap record of the WRX STi (last-gen nevertheless) is 8:24, it can be inferred that the 86 can do faster than 8:24, which would make it faster than a lot of cars with much higher horsepower including the 335i (whose record stands at 8:26).
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/6888287-post1907.html

On Prius tyres? No waaaaiiiiii

[nrclptcnsmniak]

I stopped looking at which cars to buy based off nurburgring lap times because I am not a pro driver lol. I can care less what it clocks. Honestly as long as I enjoy the car in which it suits my life then Im happy. But if I had to say a time id say 8:28

[Longhorn248]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

On Prius tyres? No waaaaiiiiii

Hmmm, I'd like their "rumor" a bit more if they released specs of the car that lapped it that fast.

The fact that two people answered "what's nurburgring" makes me

[WingsofWar]

im still shocked that the 86 got under 8:30 at the ring..from Moto's article.

It just seems unlikely ON PAPER..especially with proposed ECO-tires.

but then again....lately in the industry the line between ON PAPER and IRL performance start to blur. The Nissan GTR stats compared to other supercars like it, make the GTR seem like a pig fat whore on steroids that couldn't possibly beat cars more powerful and lighter.

Ill be even more shocked to see the 86 or BRZ break the 8 min barrier with light mods or the BRZ / TRD models.

[nrclptcnsmniak]

Originally Posted by WingsofWar

im still shocked that the 86 got under 8:30 at the ring..from Moto's article.

It just seems unlikely ON PAPER..especially with proposed ECO-tires.

but then again....lately in the industry the line between ON PAPER and IRL performance start to blur. The Nissan GTR stats compared to other supercars like it, make the GTR seem like a pig fat whore on steroids that couldn't possibly beat cars more powerful and lighter.

Ill be even more shocked to see the 86 or BRZ break the 8 min barrier with light mods or the BRZ / TRD models.

i didnt know a time had already been set. this is interesting. I remember when they did the 2011 STI though there were a few modifications on it; weight reduction, maybe suspension (they did do a roll cage) but not power if I remember correctly... could this be possible for the BRZ and its lap time? possibly not 100% stock?

[CSOCSO]

high 8:40s low 8:50s
there are much powerful cars running low 8:40s so forget about going anywhere near them...
8:20s?!?!?!?! lol are you guys on crack or something? yeah. beating 350z and mitsu evos...

[4agze]

Originally Posted by Leeky

A friend has sent me a youtube link today of a Clio 200 Cup doing BTG in 8:18. This is 200bhp in a car that weighs under 1000kgs...

So i stand corrected and people are probably right that the FT86 will be able to do a late 8min lap. But i dont think its going to be able to get below 8:30 with 200bhp and 1300kgs (just over 2800lbs by my calculations right?).

I hope the car is lighter.... i thought it was going to be about 1100kgs (just under 2500lbs) originally?

Also i wonder how hard you can corner in the FT86 before it breaks traction? Having been developed as a homage to the AE86 id expect it to be a car thats easy to drift, meaning its going to be more difficult to get it to stick in corners at high speed surely?

Lol im guessing you haven't drifted before or even drifted a AE86 before, if you ask any drifter, the AE86 is one of hardest to drift.

[Lasse]

Originally Posted by 4agze

Lol im guessing you haven't drifted before or even drifted a AE86 before, if you ask any drifter, the AE86 is one of hardest to drift.

Wasn't AE86 aimed for street racing?

[Matador]

Originally Posted by WingsofWar

im still shocked that the 86 got under 8:30 at the ring..from Moto's article.

It just seems unlikely ON PAPER..especially with proposed ECO-tires.

but then again....lately in the industry the line between ON PAPER and IRL performance start to blur. The Nissan GTR stats compared to other supercars like it, make the GTR seem like a pig fat whore on steroids that couldn't possibly beat cars more powerful and lighter.

Ill be even more shocked to see the 86 or BRZ break the 8 min barrier with light mods or the BRZ / TRD models.

The ability to inspire confidence in the driver has a lot to do with quick times at the ring (witness the LFA vs Carrera GT times) but.... Sub 8:24 is a tough pill to swallow. At least on Prius tyres.

[Deslock]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

On Prius tyres? No waaaaiiiiii

The next line of that clublexus post reads "I am not sure what tires were equipped for this testing".

With the stock summer tires, I would expect 8:40-8:50. Not that I care... my favorite cars don't do well on tracks like this, and I doubt the FT86 will be any different.

Originally Posted by WingsofWar

The Nissan GTR stats compared to other supercars like it, make the GTR seem like a pig fat whore on steroids that couldn't possibly beat cars more powerful and lighter.

The GTR has incredible grip and driver aids.

[4agze]

Originally Posted by Lasse

Wasn't AE86 aimed for street racing?

Yes a 120bhp econo box coupe was born thru the mountains of akina to race over the more powerful cars like the FC3S, FD3S & R32 GTR lol if you research more about the AE86 racing history way longer than its drifting & touge story you'll find out that the AE86 was used more than drifting in the streets.