Cheap UEL alternatives? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

haavardnk · 10-03-2016, 07:34 AM

Im looking for a cheap UEL header, and so far I have found 3 alternatives:
The Gruppe-s, which has been out of stock for over 2 months for 475$
The 1320, which comes with gaskets and OP for 449$
Tsudo uel 340$ without OP and 380$ with, not sure about gaskets (looks like a new version coming out in november?
And the CNT which comes without gaskets for 349$

I dont know if i have the patience to wait for the gruppe s, which of the other would you recommend? Or is there any other alternatives?

Bowen · 10-03-2016, 08:58 AM

The Gruppe-s would be the highest quality header from the list, but I do not recommend waiting. I was put on the waiting list and the header arrival was constantly getting pushed back.

Your best bet would probably be the CNT header, I know lots of people have it and it hasn't blown up on them. As far as gaskets go, you can get these -

https://www.amazon.com/GrimmSpeed-Ex...mmspeed+gasket

Comes with a pair and they bolt up to the gt86 as well.

Here's the CNT header thread - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89061

Teseo · 10-03-2016, 09:22 AM

Dont cheap on performance parts

GsxrMe · 10-03-2016, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Teseo

Dont cheap on performance parts

+1

Bowen · 10-03-2016, 09:32 AM

Not everyone has the budget for a tomei, jdl, or ace. The CNT header cuts a few corners, like the merge collector, but it gets the job done and no one has had one blown up on them.

Bowen · 10-03-2016, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teseo

Dont cheap on performance parts

Found this in the CNT header thread...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teseo

Price? Warranty? Pls

ajcarson11 · 10-03-2016, 09:44 AM

I vouch for Gruppe-s. Best bang for the buck -- But I was also one of the very first to order one (and therefore didn't have to wait)

KendallH · 10-03-2016, 10:33 AM

Avoid the CNT. Mine has had a nasty leak right at the passenger side head flange since about a week after installation. This was with brand new OEM gaskets and it has been torqued and retorqued numerous times with no improvement.

Summerwolf · 10-03-2016, 10:56 AM

Wait for a good deal on a used UEL like OFH or JDL.

Teseo · 10-03-2016, 11:04 AM

If you will spend $300 on a cheap header, why not wait a little and spend on good reliable header.

Teseo · 10-03-2016, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowen

Found this in the CNT header thread...

Yep, waited a deal break and did right

Bowen · 10-03-2016, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KendallH

Avoid the CNT. Mine has had a nasty leak right at the passenger side head flange since about a week after installation. This was with brand new OEM gaskets and it has been torqued and retorqued numerous times with no improvement.

Do you have the original or V2 CNT header? That sucks man, sorry to hear it.

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bababooey · 10-03-2016, 11:28 AM

got about 12000 miles on a V1 CNT with no issue. perfect for my application thus far and at the right price.

Adam_L · 10-03-2016, 12:48 PM

There is a used Borla (should be excellent quality) on Ebay. I'd go for it, but looks like I have to go a different route (plan of attack)

10-03-2016, 07:34 AM	#1
haavardnk Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Drives: GT86 2013 Location: Norway Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Cheap UEL alternatives? Im looking for a cheap UEL header, and so far I have found 3 alternatives: The Gruppe-s, which has been out of stock for over 2 months for 475$ The 1320, which comes with gaskets and OP for 449$ Tsudo uel 340$ without OP and 380$ with, not sure about gaskets (looks like a new version coming out in november? And the CNT which comes without gaskets for 349$ I dont know if i have the patience to wait for the gruppe s, which of the other would you recommend? Or is there any other alternatives? Last edited by haavardnk; 10-03-2016 at 09:52 AM.

10-03-2016, 08:58 AM	#2
Bowen Powered by Crickets Join Date: Feb 2016 Drives: 14' SWP MT Limited BRZ Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 510 Thanks: 246 Thanked 212 Times in 139 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The Gruppe-s would be the highest quality header from the list, but I do not recommend waiting. I was put on the waiting list and the header arrival was constantly getting pushed back. Your best bet would probably be the CNT header, I know lots of people have it and it hasn't blown up on them. As far as gaskets go, you can get these - https://www.amazon.com/GrimmSpeed-Ex...mmspeed+gasket Comes with a pair and they bolt up to the gt86 as well. Here's the CNT header thread - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89061 __________________ Build Thread / OFT Stage 2, Tomei UEL, Perrin Resonated, ST Coils, 2 Sets of Wheels, Rally Armor, TOMS Tails.

10-03-2016, 09:32 AM	#5
Bowen Powered by Crickets Join Date: Feb 2016 Drives: 14' SWP MT Limited BRZ Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 510 Thanks: 246 Thanked 212 Times in 139 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Not everyone has the budget for a tomei, jdl, or ace. The CNT header cuts a few corners, like the merge collector, but it gets the job done and no one has had one blown up on them. __________________ Build Thread / OFT Stage 2, Tomei UEL, Perrin Resonated, ST Coils, 2 Sets of Wheels, Rally Armor, TOMS Tails.

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Teseo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Drives: frs Location: Gunsai Posts: 4,951 Thanks: 7,463 Thanked 2,978 Times in 1,801 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Dont cheap on performance parts

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ajcarson11 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited (Black) Location: Indianapolis Posts: 511 Thanks: 253 Thanked 206 Times in 149 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I vouch for Gruppe-s. Best bang for the buck -- But I was also one of the very first to order one (and therefore didn't have to wait)

10-03-2016, 10:33 AM	#8
KendallH Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Drives: 2013 FR-S Base, 1997 Jeep Wrangler Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 107 Thanks: 4 Thanked 136 Times in 43 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Avoid the CNT. Mine has had a nasty leak right at the passenger side head flange since about a week after installation. This was with brand new OEM gaskets and it has been torqued and retorqued numerous times with no improvement.

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Summerwolf Panda Trueno Join Date: Jan 2015 Drives: No twin now. Location: North Indiana Posts: 3,349 Thanks: 2,113 Thanked 2,409 Times in 1,332 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Wait for a good deal on a used UEL like OFH or JDL.

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Teseo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Drives: frs Location: Gunsai Posts: 4,951 Thanks: 7,463 Thanked 2,978 Times in 1,801 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	If you will spend $300 on a cheap header, why not wait a little and spend on good reliable header.

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bababooey Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: BRZ SWP Limited -6MT Location: HillCountry-TX Posts: 431 Thanks: 145 Thanked 162 Times in 106 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	got about 12000 miles on a V1 CNT with no issue. perfect for my application thus far and at the right price.

10-03-2016, 12:48 PM	#14
Adam_L Senior Member Join Date: May 2016 Drives: '16 FR-S RS2 MT, '06 xA Polar MT Location: Central Coast California Posts: 666 Thanks: 1,133 Thanked 159 Times in 118 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There is a used Borla (should be excellent quality) on Ebay. I'd go for it, but looks like I have to go a different route (plan of attack)

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