Prep for forced induction - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

BRZUK · 08-10-2014, 07:00 PM

Hi guys,

I plan to go Avo Stage 2 Turbo kit in about 6 months and i am trying to do all my prep ( everything thats needs installed before turbo ) now.

My powers goals are 280 WHP to achieve this i will be buying the following:

Avo Turbo Kit with ceramic coating.
Avo Breather System
3 bar map sensor
Clutch
Oil cooler

Oil cooler will be going on the car when the turbo kit is i want to reframe from removing the front bumper more times than i have to.

My questions are:

Pistons and rods do i need them for my power levels? I think not but would like your thoughts on this.

Brakes, do i need a BBK or will discs, pads, SSL and fluid swap be enough i do not track the car nor will i be in the future.

What other supporting mods would you install yourself to keep the car reliable as possible.

Thank you very much guys for your help learn so much for this forum and hopefully about to learn more.

OICU812 · 08-10-2014, 07:55 PM

With what you said no tracking then you've already covered the needs. No need for brakes etc..

The only thing from your supporting mods list I'd ensure of is that your Oil Cooler is thermostatically controlled "at least I would"..

Under 300 RWHP you should not require any internals. Your main concern should be a quality tuner who will tune your kit to a safe and reliable margin. Not knowing shops where you live leaves out a suggestion for that portion.

protpibe · 08-10-2014, 08:45 PM

Under 300whp won't require internals on the engine to be done, as long as your tune is solid.

My own personal list would be this:

Pad/Rotor upgrade because it's really easy to get up to speed on the street
Clutch (Stage 1 organic is enough)
Oil Cooler (I went FBM so it didn't block the intercooler)
Boost Gauge
AFR Gauge
Exhaust (overpipe, front pipe, cat back)
Intake (panel filter is fine)

Calum · 08-10-2014, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OICU812

With what you said no tracking then you've already covered the needs. No need for brakes etc..

The only thing from your supporting mods list I'd ensure of is that your Oil Cooler is thermostatically controlled "at least I would"..

Under 300 RWHP you should not require any internals. Your main concern should be a quality tuner who will tune your kit to a safe and reliable margin. Not knowing shops where you live leaves out a suggestion for that portion.

Who are you quoting?

Kiske · 08-10-2014, 09:57 PM

You can easily do your fuel pump instal before hand. Make sure it is running right well before the avo kit is added. Same with the clutch. May also consider getting any scanning/guages you may need before-hand.

OICU812 · 08-10-2014, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calum

Who are you quoting?

I was responding to the OP was not quoting anyone why?

glamcem · 08-11-2014, 04:22 AM

add clamps on every possible line that may cause a leak down the road, because it will

Calum · 08-11-2014, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OICU812

I was responding to the OP was not quoting anyone why?

Your use of quotation marks.

HRTROB · 08-11-2014, 06:16 AM

If you think you will need a bigger radiator, better do it now before you go FI. Install is a breeze when NA but a PITA once you go FI because of all the additional piping

BadBRZ · 08-11-2014, 02:00 PM

I'd start by selecting a differant turbo kit, then (depending on power lvl) get supporting mods.

Just a turbo kit and tune should get you 260-280, start throwing in exhuast injectors fuel pump etc you can get 350 on pump 500 on e85. Of ourse by that point you'll want a built block.

Etc

More power = money^n

solus · 08-11-2014, 04:57 PM

I'm in the process of doing the same kit... I would suggest a full exhaust, OP/FP and catback.

My question is oil cooler... how necessary is it? Mine will be DD zero to very little track use.

BRZUK · 08-11-2014, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HRTROB

If you think you will need a bigger radiator, better do it now before you go FI. Install is a breeze when NA but a PITA once you go FI because of all the additional piping

Now that you have said i will buy one was looking that koyorad radiator. What one would you personally go for, thank you.

BRZUK · 08-11-2014, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadBRZ

I'd start by selecting a differant turbo kit, then (depending on power lvl) get supporting mods.

Just a turbo kit and tune should get you 260-280, start throwing in exhuast injectors fuel pump etc you can get 350 on pump 500 on e85. Of ourse by that point you'll want a built block.

Etc

More power = money^n

Why you say that? Do you not the the AVO kit? and why.

BRZUK · 08-11-2014, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glamcem

add clamps on every possible line that may cause a leak down the road, because it will

Thank for the advise on that one.

08-10-2014, 07:00 PM	#1
BRZUK Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: GT86 Location: UK Posts: 54 Thanks: 14 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Prep for forced induction Hi guys, I plan to go Avo Stage 2 Turbo kit in about 6 months and i am trying to do all my prep ( everything thats needs installed before turbo ) now. My powers goals are 280 WHP to achieve this i will be buying the following: Avo Turbo Kit with ceramic coating. Avo Breather System 3 bar map sensor Clutch Oil cooler Oil cooler will be going on the car when the turbo kit is i want to reframe from removing the front bumper more times than i have to. My questions are: Pistons and rods do i need them for my power levels? I think not but would like your thoughts on this. Brakes, do i need a BBK or will discs, pads, SSL and fluid swap be enough i do not track the car nor will i be in the future. What other supporting mods would you install yourself to keep the car reliable as possible. Thank you very much guys for your help learn so much for this forum and hopefully about to learn more.

08-10-2014, 08:45 PM	#3
protpibe Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 4-Runner Sport - 13' BRZ SportTech Location: Winnipeg Posts: 1,395 Thanks: 253 Thanked 839 Times in 459 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Under 300whp won't require internals on the engine to be done, as long as your tune is solid. My own personal list would be this: Pad/Rotor upgrade because it's really easy to get up to speed on the street Clutch (Stage 1 organic is enough) Oil Cooler (I went FBM so it didn't block the intercooler) Boost Gauge AFR Gauge Exhaust (overpipe, front pipe, cat back) Intake (panel filter is fine) __________________ Top Tier Imports - Check out my build journal HERE

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Kiske Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: RX-7 / BRZ Location: USA Posts: 2,349 Thanks: 1,031 Thanked 2,501 Times in 1,081 Posts Mentioned: 27 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You can easily do your fuel pump instal before hand. Make sure it is running right well before the avo kit is added. Same with the clutch. May also consider getting any scanning/guages you may need before-hand. __________________ //2013 World Rally Blue BRZ Limited FBM Turbo--gone //2018 Crystal White Pearl BRZ Ts 2.2l Harrop Supercharged

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