Stock all-season tires?

[Wait4BRZ_STI?]

I am wondering the following question: do all FR-S and BRZ come with summer tires only? Usually for sporty but not exotic cars (less than $30K), the buyer can choose either summer or all-season tires. It seems a bit unusual to sell a relative inexpensive car that only comes with summer tires.

The reason I am asking is that if it is all summer tires, then the car purchase price should also factor into another set of winter tires (probably plus wheels) since they are needed immediately in the first winter. If it comes with an all-season tire choice, then I can probably wait for a year or two before deciding the right summer/winter tire/wheel combo.

Any information is highly appreciated.

[2fast4you]

Originally Posted by Wait4BRZ_STI?

I am wondering the following question: do all FR-S and BRZ come with summer tires only?

Yes.

[Wait4BRZ_STI?]

Originally Posted by 2fast4you

Yes.

Thanks for the info. I guess I just have to bite the bullet and save a bit more.

[fatoni]

I don't think there is a situation where all seasons would suffice that the stock tires wouldn't. If you live where there is a winter, you would probably need a second set anyways

[dsgerbc]

Protip: when you have winter tires - your non-winter tires last longer. So in essence (that is in the longer term) you only an need extra set of winter wheels. That's like $200 for a decent used set.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by dsgerbc

Protip: when you have winter tires - your non-winter tires last longer. So in essence (that is in the longer term) you only an need extra set of winter wheels. That's like $200 for a decent used set.

16" steelies will certainly fit; might be able to squeeze some 15s on there too.

[Calum]

Winter beaters are cheap, mine cost less than $1000 after any work required, taxes and registration. And it came with winter tires on it already. I'd rather not subject the FRS to the salt used on the roads here.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by fatoni

I don't think there is a situation where all seasons would suffice that the stock tires wouldn't. If you live where there is a winter, you would probably need a second set anyways

I'm not sure about that. In Atlanta we have cold days (defined as <32 degrees F) but rarely have snow/ice and when we do I wouldn't dare drive anything in it because, well, we don't get any so folks don't know how to drive in it.

In this case, I don't think the stock tires would work. All season tires have worked fine for me for 15 years on all my cars.

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by Calum

Winter beaters are cheap, mine cost less than $1000 after any work required, taxes and registration. And it came with winter tires on it already. I'd rather not subject the FRS to the salt used on the roads here.

Yes but expenses add up when you have a beater. I have thought about keeping my current car for that purpose, but I would be looking at losing $500/year in lost revenue (could no longer rent 2nd parking space), plus say $200/yr for oil change and other maintenance, $75/yr in licensing fees. Plus I can sell it for $4-5k.

For high-mileage types the reduced mileage on the FR-S from having a winter beater would partially pay for the winter car's manintenance but for me my mileage will be so low that my maintenance costs will be dictated by time intervals not mileage so less annual driving would make no difference to my ongoing FR-S costs.

[DarkSunrise]

I read somewhere that Scion/Subaru just sourced all-seasons for the FR-S/BRZ, so it sounds like they're getting ready to offer all-seasons at some point (but no word on timing or which markets).

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

I'm not sure about that. In Atlanta we have cold days (defined as <32 degrees F) but rarely have snow/ice and when we do I wouldn't dare drive anything in it because, well, we don't get any so folks don't know how to drive in it.

In this case, I don't think the stock tires would work. All season tires have worked fine for me for 15 years on all my cars.

Yeah I agree. You can drive all-seasons in light snow and be fine. But summer tires in any kind of snow is really dangerous.

[Calum]

Originally Posted by Scion FR-S

Yes but expenses add up when you have a beater. I have thought about keeping my current car for that purpose, but I would be looking at losing $500/year in lost revenue (could no longer rent 2nd parking space), plus say $200/yr for oil change and other maintenance, $75/yr in licensing fees. Plus I can sell it for $4-5k.

For high-mileage types the reduced mileage on the FR-S from having a winter beater would partially pay for the winter car's manintenance but for me my mileage will be so low that my maintenance costs will be dictated by time intervals not mileage so less annual driving would make no difference to my ongoing FR-S costs.

Different strokes for different folks. Everything you mentioned is the opposite for me. I drive between 1800 and 2000 ams per month, my drive way is over 100 feet long and as wide as most two lane roads, and winter tires are a lot cheaper for 14 inch rims. But even if all that wasn't true, I'd still store the car for the winter to avoid the rust from the salt.

[alluringreality]

Originally Posted by Wait4BRZ_STI?

It seems a bit unusual to sell a relative inexpensive car that only comes with summer tires.

http://www.cars.com/scion/fr-s/2013/...s/?revid=58456
"Scion spokesman Craig Taguchi says an all-season tire will arrive at a later date."