Tein S. Tech Lowering Springs

[Itssrayyxd]

I am very interested in buying these lowering springs because the wheel spacing is ridiculous in my opinion. Of course these will only be temporary until I finish the stuff I want to get. (Hid/led lights, spoiler, vinyl wrap lip, etc. )

Anyways, the point is that this is my first car. I don't know much about lowering. I read all about dampers and cambers and such and I don't know what these mean. I'm in no way, shape, or form a car guy. So if anyone will be kind enough to educate me on this would be very helpful. Please make it as easy to understand as possible because I am a novice when it comes to modifications.

Some simple questions I would like to get answered also is that:
What do I need to do in order to install these springs? Do I have to buy something separate from the springs in or see to install? (I will be going to y local Autoshops to get them installed). Because I thought you just replace the springs and you're done.

For those who already have these installed, how is the driving? Do I have to angle every dip, bump, and driveway with these installed?

And lastly, how long are they going to last before my shocks are worn out?

Sorry for such novice questions, but I want to know every single detail before I buy and get them installed.

Thanks a lot for taking the time to read this!

-Raymond

[Racecomp Engineering]

Tein S-techs are known for blowing shocks in the Subaru world due to being too low. Even before the shocks blow, you're sacrificing ride quality and handling for looks. They are a "style" spring and they don't try to hide that fact (it's the S in s-tech). If style is your priority they are a fine choice but there are many other better performing options.

You don't need anything else to install the springs. I do recommend the OEM front camber bolts simply because they're super cheap and will make a noticeable difference in handling. With a drop as big as the S-techs you'll want either rear control arms to adjust rear camber or the less expensive but more difficult to install/adjust Whiteline rear camber bushings. That's not needed for medium/mild drop springs though it can be nice to have.

- Andrew

[JoeBoxer]

Get the H Techs instead or the RCE Yellows, Eibach Pro-Kit, or Swift BRZ springs.

I have the H Techs and haven't had any problems out of them but the S-Tech isn't really a good choice for this car imo.

[f0rge]

it you want low then the eibach sportlines are also nice, plus they also come with new bumpstops so you dont have to cut the stock ones.

i've had many lowered cars in my day, the only reason you need to angle is so you dont scrape, i dont really see this being a problem for the FR-S on anything but the most retarded driveways.

the stock ride IMO is pretty bad, i've heard that aftermarket springs don't do anything worse, some even improve to an extent.

[Itssrayyxd]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Tein S-techs are known for blowing shocks in the Subaru world due to being too low. Even before the shocks blow, you're sacrificing ride quality and handling for looks. They are a "style" spring and they don't try to hide that fact (it's the S in s-tech). If style is your priority they are a fine choice but there are many other better performing options.

You don't need anything else to install the springs. I do recommend the OEM front camber bolts simply because they're super cheap and will make a noticeable difference in handling. With a drop as big as the S-techs you'll want either rear control arms to adjust rear camber or the less expensive but more difficult to install/adjust Whiteline rear camber bushings. That's not needed for medium/mild drop springs though it can be nice to have.

- Andrew

Ahhhh. I didn't know that! Thanks for giving me a heads up!

As for the Eibachs, which would be better? Pro kit or sportsline? I don't mind angling, but I don't want to scrape really bad if I don't angle enough. And my area has bad pavement and potholes, And I don't want to ruin the car going through these roads.

All recommendations and advice is greatly appreciated!

[Racecomp Engineering]

The Prokit is more of a medium drop, while Sportlines are a bigger drop. The Sportlines are too low IMO for performance but if you do really want a big drop they're the best choice. For a medium drop the Pro-kits are a good choice.

We have our own RCE Yellow springs, which are a medium/mild drop with a focus on performance/ride/function first. There are some pics in our build thread and facebook page. Our springs and Eibachs are the only ones that come with replacement bumpstops.

- Andrew

[Itssrayyxd]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

The Prokit is more of a medium drop, while Sportlines are a bigger drop. The Sportlines are too low IMO for performance but if you do really want a big drop they're the best choice. For a medium drop the Pro-kits are a good choice.

We have our own RCE Yellow springs, which are a medium/mild drop with a focus on performance/ride/function first. There are some pics in our build thread and facebook page. Our springs and Eibachs are the only ones that come with replacement bumpstops.

- Andrew

Well my car is my DD. it's my only car. I want to lower it to get rid of the wheel spacing (still have stock wheels and tires) but not too low to the point where I scratch everything. What would you recommend from what I seem to be looking for?

[wu_dot_com]

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[Itssrayyxd]

Originally Posted by wu_dot_com

Buyers beware.

I have a very bad experience with the integrity of those who works for Tein for the development of S-tech.

if you are up for some light reading, i have documented in the thd below.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13484&page=10

now I've been riding on Tein for over 6 month, i can say that i do not enjoy the ride at all.

the springs is overly harsh when going over bumps. it limits the full suspension travels which results in lift off between tires and the road when i hit a bump. i have to ask my passenger to exit the car just so i can clear some bumps in a parking situation many times.

as soon as i have some time, i will throw back the stock springs.

btw the tein springs will drop your car low enough where you will scratch at even some mild speed pump or regular driveway.

go Racecomp if you can, they are good people who actually knows their stuff well.

Oh man. I just read your post. Man that sucks. I'm probably going to go with the Eibachs. But I'm not sure which one i want. Probably make a new thread about the Eibachs and get more information from fellow members.

[JoeBoxer]

Originally Posted by Itssrayyxd

Oh man. I just read your post. Man that sucks. I'm probably going to go with the Eibachs. But I'm not sure which one i want. Probably make a new thread about the Eibachs and get more information from fellow members.

No need to make a new thread just do a search they have been discussed and @Dave-ROR has a review thread also.

[Itssrayyxd]

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

No need to make a new thread just do a search they have been discussed and @Dave-ROR has a review thread also.

Awesome! Thanks.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by Itssrayyxd

Well my car is my DD. it's my only car. I want to lower it to get rid of the wheel spacing (still have stock wheels and tires) but not too low to the point where I scratch everything. What would you recommend from what I seem to be looking for?

If you really want a big drop, go with Sportlines....although if your roads aren't so great I'd avoid them as it's too much of a drop IMO.

Eibach Pro-kit is a medium drop of a 25mm (1 inch) and our RCE Yellow is a mild/medium 20mm drop.

Less of a drop is better for ride quality and function. I think our RCE Yellows and the Eibach Pro-Kit look really good. Classy and tasteful.

Eibach makes our RCE Yellow springs btw.

- Andrew

[Itssrayyxd]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

If you really want a big drop, go with Sportlines....although if your roads aren't so great I'd avoid them as it's too much of a drop IMO.

Eibach Pro-kit is a medium drop of a 25mm (1 inch) and our RCE Yellow is a mild/medium 20mm drop.

Less of a drop is better for ride quality and function. I think our RCE Yellows and the Eibach Pro-Kit look really good. Classy and tasteful.

Eibach makes our RCE Yellow springs btw.

- Andrew

Do you have pictures of all three? Lol all I see are pictures if springs itself

[Racecomp Engineering]

3 pics of our RCE Yellow springs:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...59566195_n.jpg
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...64263455_n.jpg
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...36637203_n.jpg
We might have a few pics with stock wheels on our facebook.


Dave-ROR has a thread on the Sportlines here:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11093

Here's a thread with pics of the Pro-kits:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11093

- Andrew