Newb Brake bed-in (bedding?) question

[BigFatFlip]

Just purchased my very first set of "race pads/high temp pads" as prep for my upcoming track day. The shop I purchased the pads say that I can actually just pop the new pads in the night before/morning of my track day and they will bed-in just fine once I slam on my brakes on that first corner. From my lay-man knowledge of what the bed-in process is supposed to be doing, I'm not so sure. I've replaced brake pads before and have the done the bed-in process (4-5 35-10 mph runs, then a couple a little bit faster, then let them cool) but have never done so with "higher temp" pads. Would it be a different process? ie have to get them hotter, so faster and harder braking to bed them in? I've checked out the manufacturer website but did not find anything.

Second newb question, when I do switch back to my stock pads (for DD), is there any need to "re-bed-in"? I'd assume that they would just be a "swap and go" type of scenario.

[CSG Mike]

While that procedure will "work", be prepared for some funking braking characteristics that first session.

Don't "slam" on the brakes. You want to be braking hard, but not at ABS.

PM me your e-mail and I'll send you our bedding procedures. Does the shop you purchased these pads from just regurgitate information or do they actually have a significant amount of experience with tracking a BRZ/FRS?

[JRitt]

Please watch these vids I put together on this topic.:happy0180:
How to bed-in brake pads

How to swap between street and race pad compounds

[mav1178]

Remind me never to buy pads from that "race shop."

For info:
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/tech/index.jsp

Generally speaking, the procedures for Hawk are pretty accurate for the vast majorities of pads on the market.

After installing new pads make 6 to 10 stops from approximately 35 mph with moderate pressure. Make an additional two to three hard stops from approximately 40 to 45 mph. Do not allow the vehicle to come to a complete stop.When completed with this process, park the vehicle and allow the brakes to cool completely before driving on them again. Do not engage the parking brake until after this cooling process is compete.

-alex

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by mav1178

Remind me never to buy pads from that "race shop."

For info:
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/tech/index.jsp

Generally speaking, the procedures for Hawk are pretty accurate for the vast majorities of pads on the market.



-alex

Just use... higher speeds (with race pads) once you get the initial warm-up done.

[mav1178]

^^^ yup.

The key with bedding in pads is to achieve the temperature (range) at which the pads will operate to initiate the transfer process.

Or, you can do it at the track and endure really inconsistent braking performance for a few laps.

-alex

[BigFatFlip]

Thank you all for the replies.

Originally Posted by mav1178

Remind me never to buy pads from that "race shop."

Lol, I may have been a little unfair. Sure, I was arguing with them about it, but that "swap them in that morning and just brake hard on the first corner" comment was more the guy being facetious.

Originally Posted by mav1178

Generally speaking, the procedures for Hawk are pretty accurate for the vast majorities of pads on the market.

-alex

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Just use... higher speeds (with race pads) once you get the initial warm-up done.

^Agreed, this is what I've learned in the past and what I've done when replacing regular OEM pads, figured I'd just have to get them hotter (by going faster) for the last few runs before cool down.

[mav1178]

Cliff notes version should just be:

You pick "race" pads based on the temperatures you expect the brakes to be used in (highly dependent on your speed/HP as well as vehicle weight), so your bedding procedures are modified to match the pad and the temp range.

A lot of this is determined by the track, too.

-alex

[NYBobbo]

Hi, I am new here from New York and looking information about bedding and its bedding procedures. Someone here talk about and could you please share it publicly?