Hyundai RM16 N mid-engine hatchback might be real - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

mazeroni · 10-24-2016, 08:30 PM

Guys, guys, guys! Hyundai might actually be producing a mid-engine, rear-drive hatch under their N performance division... Or is it just a race car version of Veloster version 2.0? Look at those rear vents. Yuge!

Would you trade in your 86 / BRZ for this?

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/10/24/h...to-mid-engine/

*http://www.autoblog.com/2016/06/06/h...gine-veloster/ <- Link to Concept car (2.0 Turbo mounted behind the front seats)

Venom1506 · 10-24-2016, 08:34 PM

Is there any information on the drivetrain?

mazeroni · 10-24-2016, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venom1506

Is there any information on the drivetrain?

Edited post to show concept car that debuted with 2.0 turbo. The concept was a 2-seater. No other information available right now, however, the vehicle in the photos appears production ready, as noted by Autoblog. Whether it is a production car, or just a racecar, who knows. Hopefully we see it at LA or Detroit i next couple months and it turns out to be the N divisions halo vehicle.

Also I incorrectly pasted the Autoblog link. Fixed*

FX86 · 10-24-2016, 08:50 PM

guybo · 10-24-2016, 08:54 PM

I wonder if it'll have the 2.0T that the GenCoupe had? If that mid-engine Veloster M ever makes it to the car lot, that could be an awesome car. 2 seater though.

Teseo · 10-24-2016, 11:18 PM

Its still a fucking veloster... Han's right

DarkSunrise · 10-25-2016, 09:11 AM

Very interesting in concept (mid-engine, RWD). The Hyundai badge wouldn't deter me, but I'm doubtful about their ability to nail the execution. Hyundai has never made a RWD sports car with great driving dynamics. Not sure it's going to magically come together with this car. I'm skeptical but I'd consider it if the final product was legitimately amazing to drive.

Also (contrary to the poll option) this isn't going to have the huge cargo space of a typical hatch. The closest car is probably the Renault Clio V6, and that had practically no hatch space behind the engine and no rear seats.

guybo · 10-25-2016, 09:27 AM

But there should be some space for groceries up front? There's no engine to get in the way- it won't be a huge space but it should have some space like a 911 has. But there won't be much in the back

DarkSunrise · 10-25-2016, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by guybo

But there should be some space for groceries up front? There's no engine to get in the way- it won't be a huge space but it should have some space like a 911 has. But there won't be much in the back

Yeah but the poll option is "Yes, gimmie that cargo capacity & mad driftz"

This is going to have less cargo capacity than a typical FR coupe.

That's all I was saying, although agree it will have a small frunk like a 911/cayman.

guybo · 10-25-2016, 12:07 PM

You can't really drift a mid engine car can you? They are infamous for being too tail happy and snapping to oversteer in a heartbeat (or so I read).

DarkSunrise · 10-25-2016, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by guybo

You can't really drift a mid engine car can you? They are infamous for being too tail happy and snapping to oversteer in a heartbeat (or so I read).

Yeah that's a good point - MR cars aren't really known to be easy to drift. Definitely possible though.

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mazeroni · 10-25-2016, 01:29 PM

Lawl, well, I stand corrected on 2 counts, probably. Maybe it won't be able to drift, and perhaps the cargo capacity will suck, relatively speaking. The hatch opening looks large which will help with taller objects, but yes, the vehicle appears quite short. Though the frunk might helps.

Can you edit polls after the fact? I am thinking not.

why? · 10-25-2016, 02:03 PM

if it is mid engined and rwd it will be worth a look. I mean the velostar looks great, but that is all it does.

guybo · 10-25-2016, 02:12 PM

Oh yeah, definately! Hyundai might actually make a car that can handle for a shit! It should be lightweight, the Gen 2.0t put out 270/270 and the balance should be awesome.

I think the Veloster has a good look that kind of grows on you. IMHO this car could be a beast and will definitely be unique in a MR2 kind of way.

View Poll Results: Would You Trade Your Twin for a Rear-Drive Hatch With a Hyundai Badge?
Yes, gimmie that cargo capacity & mad driftz	5	33.33%
No, I like the coupe.	10	66.67%
Voters: 15. You may not vote on this poll

10-24-2016, 08:30 PM	#1
mazeroni Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Series 10 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,117 Thanks: 600 Thanked 1,017 Times in 512 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hyundai RM16 N mid-engine hatchback might be real Guys, guys, guys! Hyundai might actually be producing a mid-engine, rear-drive hatch under their N performance division... Or is it just a race car version of Veloster version 2.0? Look at those rear vents. Yuge! Would you trade in your 86 / BRZ for this? http://www.autoblog.com/2016/10/24/h...to-mid-engine/ http://www.autoblog.com/2016/06/06/h...gine-veloster/ <- Link to Concept car (2.0 Turbo mounted behind the front seats) Last edited by mazeroni; 10-24-2016 at 09:07 PM. Reason: Powertrain clarification based on concept car*

10-25-2016, 09:11 AM	#7
DarkSunrise Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S) Location: USA Posts: 5,798 Thanks: 2,187 Thanked 4,243 Times in 2,221 Posts Mentioned: 48 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Very interesting in concept (mid-engine, RWD). The Hyundai badge wouldn't deter me, but I'm doubtful about their ability to nail the execution. Hyundai has never made a RWD sports car with great driving dynamics. Not sure it's going to magically come together with this car. I'm skeptical but I'd consider it if the final product was legitimately amazing to drive. Also (contrary to the poll option) this isn't going to have the huge cargo space of a typical hatch. The closest car is probably the Renault Clio V6, and that had practically no hatch space behind the engine and no rear seats. __________________ "Never run out of real estate, traction, and ideas at the same time." 2022 BRZ Build 2013 FR-S Build

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Venom1506 Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Drives: 16 Ultramarine FRS Location: Santa Clarita Posts: 62 Thanks: 13 Thanked 52 Times in 27 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Is there any information on the drivetrain?

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guybo Huge E85 fan! Join Date: May 2016 Drives: 2016 Scion FRS Location: Tampa, FL, USA Posts: 1,850 Thanks: 539 Thanked 1,010 Times in 605 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I wonder if it'll have the 2.0T that the GenCoupe had? If that mid-engine Veloster M ever makes it to the car lot, that could be an awesome car. 2 seater though.

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Teseo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Drives: frs Location: Gunsai Posts: 4,954 Thanks: 7,467 Thanked 2,980 Times in 1,802 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Its still a fucking veloster... Han's right

10-25-2016, 09:27 AM	#8
guybo Huge E85 fan! Join Date: May 2016 Drives: 2016 Scion FRS Location: Tampa, FL, USA Posts: 1,850 Thanks: 539 Thanked 1,010 Times in 605 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	But there should be some space for groceries up front? There's no engine to get in the way- it won't be a huge space but it should have some space like a 911 has. But there won't be much in the back

10-25-2016, 12:07 PM	#10
guybo Huge E85 fan! Join Date: May 2016 Drives: 2016 Scion FRS Location: Tampa, FL, USA Posts: 1,850 Thanks: 539 Thanked 1,010 Times in 605 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You can't really drift a mid engine car can you? They are infamous for being too tail happy and snapping to oversteer in a heartbeat (or so I read).

10-25-2016, 01:29 PM	#12
mazeroni Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Series 10 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,117 Thanks: 600 Thanked 1,017 Times in 512 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Lawl, well, I stand corrected on 2 counts, probably. Maybe it won't be able to drift, and perhaps the cargo capacity will suck, relatively speaking. The hatch opening looks large which will help with taller objects, but yes, the vehicle appears quite short. Though the frunk might helps. Can you edit polls after the fact? I am thinking not.

10-25-2016, 02:03 PM	#13
why? Only happy when it rains. Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: series.blue Location: Harnett county NC Posts: 1,995 Thanks: 5,698 Thanked 1,265 Times in 750 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	if it is mid engined and rwd it will be worth a look. I mean the velostar looks great, but that is all it does.

10-25-2016, 02:12 PM	#14
guybo Huge E85 fan! Join Date: May 2016 Drives: 2016 Scion FRS Location: Tampa, FL, USA Posts: 1,850 Thanks: 539 Thanked 1,010 Times in 605 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Oh yeah, definately! Hyundai might actually make a car that can handle for a shit! It should be lightweight, the Gen 2.0t put out 270/270 and the balance should be awesome. I think the Veloster has a good look that kind of grows on you. IMHO this car could be a beast and will definitely be unique in a MR2 kind of way.

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