ROBISPEC Front ADJUSTABLE tubular lower control arms - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

robispec · 03-19-2013, 12:11 AM

FINALLY DONE WITH TESTING

last test over a 3" tall steel lamp base (plz don't ask it's embarassing)
TACOED the wheel so bad it was scraping on the Brake caliper and debeaded the tire.

these control arms are
rollcenter,
caster
track width
camber
and anti dive
adjustable

have bump steerable tierod ends too

NOW FOR SALE FINAL TESTING DONE
Proudly used by the Inovate Supercharged car at the Modified Magazine Ultimate street car Shootout.

These are HALF the weight of the stock item stiffer stronger and have a range of adjustment that excedes its usfulness..lol
Last edited by robispec; Today at 08:03 PM.

Touge Monster · 03-19-2013, 12:14 AM

Awesome been waiting for these

Captain Insano · 03-19-2013, 12:18 AM

Adjustable, stronger, AND half the weight. I like that.

kanundrum · 03-19-2013, 12:42 AM

eckoflyte · 03-19-2013, 02:53 AM

Price? Also what type of alloy is used for the body and ends/joints?

whataboutbob · 03-19-2013, 02:55 AM

VERY nice. Thanks Robi!

robispec · 03-19-2013, 03:09 AM

4130 body, tension tube and tabs DOM bearing receiver on outboard end.
We have been using aluminum ends as we are not running wheel to wheel.
These make weight with the standard steel endlinks.
$ 750 with the bumpsteerable endlinks

eckoflyte · 03-19-2013, 04:12 AM

what sort of aluminum alloy is used for the end joints?

Can we get closer up pictures of the adjustable RCA section?

Can the track width be adjusted with the arm on the car? I ask because I notice there is only one locking nut so doesnt look like the joint can rotate to adjust without it being off the car.

Exact weight? I've seen the stock front control arms on the scale and its 5.9 pounds.

robispec · 03-19-2013, 05:04 AM

what sort of aluminum alloy is used for the end joints?
7075
Can we get closer up pictures of the adjustable RCA section?
I got what I got can correct roll center for up to a 4" drop from stock
Can the track width be adjusted with the arm on the car? I ask because I notice there is only one locking nut so doesnt look like the joint can rotate to adjust without it being off the car.
No I dont like the compromises in beam strength and the weight increases by making it adjustable "on the car" the 12mm bolt is easy to remove and the rod end is easy to index at 1/2 turn/side when needed
Exact weight? I've seen the stock front control arms on the scale and its 5.9 pounds.
I've weighed ten stock arms and they vary from 5.9 to 6.1
ours are 3.00 with steel rod ends
even if they weigh more the strength lack of flex and adgustability are the winners here! (imo)

eckoflyte · 03-19-2013, 05:07 AM

sweet. can these be shipped with OEM mounting points already positioned so no need for end user to have to measure and mess around with adjustment?

Captain Snooze · 03-19-2013, 05:59 AM

Ummmm... I see Heim/rose joints. What are bump steerable tierod ends?
Ta.

eckoflyte · 03-19-2013, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robispec

last test over a 3" tall steel lamp base (plz don't ask it's embarassing)
TACOED the wheel so bad it was scraping on the Brake caliper and debeaded the tire.

was this a durability test for the control arms? how did they take it?

eckoflyte · 03-19-2013, 08:08 AM

sorry the barrage of questions, but i think it may be useful for other users too.

i've noticed the front mounting (if picturing from the right side of the car) of the arm is offset so that it is mounted lower thereby the control is angled downward toward the front. Would this be a pro-dive setup? I would think you would prefer the offset the other way around to induce anti-dive. What are your experiences on handling/driving the car with either setup? And what do you prefer in the FRS?

DriftEightSix · 03-19-2013, 08:26 AM

Damn!

Sounds amazing; guess they are worth the money; will be third on my list.

MCA Coilovers, Whiteline Rear Lower Arms and now have found the front lower arms!

well unless you are making some rears as well cause this looks like a top product.

03-19-2013, 12:11 AM	#1
robispec Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Black frs project Location: Socal Posts: 960 Thanks: 189 Thanked 886 Times in 381 Posts Mentioned: 190 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	ROBISPEC Front ADJUSTABLE tubular lower control arms FINALLY DONE WITH TESTING last test over a 3" tall steel lamp base (plz don't ask it's embarassing) TACOED the wheel so bad it was scraping on the Brake caliper and debeaded the tire. these control arms are rollcenter, caster track width camber and anti dive adjustable have bump steerable tierod ends too NOW FOR SALE FINAL TESTING DONE Proudly used by the Inovate Supercharged car at the Modified Magazine Ultimate street car Shootout. These are HALF the weight of the stock item stiffer stronger and have a range of adjustment that excedes its usfulness..lol Last edited by robispec; Today at 08:03 PM.

03-19-2013, 12:14 AM	#2
Touge Monster Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 85 AE86 Hatch, 92 SW20 , 13 GT86 Location: San Francisco Posts: 317 Thanks: 149 Thanked 97 Times in 61 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Awesome been waiting for these __________________ Living life one HPDE at a time

03-19-2013, 12:42 AM	#4
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DriftEightSix Pegasus White Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 86 Location: Brisbane. Posts: 973 Thanks: 646 Thanked 126 Times in 104 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Damn! Sounds amazing; guess they are worth the money; will be third on my list. MCA Coilovers, Whiteline Rear Lower Arms and now have found the front lower arms! well unless you are making some rears as well cause this looks like a top product. __________________ Driving: Pegasus White Manual GTS 86.

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eckoflyte Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Toyota 86 GTS Location: Sydney Posts: 246 Thanks: 45 Thanked 47 Times in 33 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Price? Also what type of alloy is used for the body and ends/joints?

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robispec Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Black frs project Location: Socal Posts: 960 Thanks: 189 Thanked 886 Times in 381 Posts Mentioned: 190 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	4130 body, tension tube and tabs DOM bearing receiver on outboard end. We have been using aluminum ends as we are not running wheel to wheel. These make weight with the standard steel endlinks. $ 750 with the bumpsteerable endlinks

03-19-2013, 04:12 AM	#8
eckoflyte Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Toyota 86 GTS Location: Sydney Posts: 246 Thanks: 45 Thanked 47 Times in 33 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	what sort of aluminum alloy is used for the end joints? Can we get closer up pictures of the adjustable RCA section? Can the track width be adjusted with the arm on the car? I ask because I notice there is only one locking nut so doesnt look like the joint can rotate to adjust without it being off the car. Exact weight? I've seen the stock front control arms on the scale and its 5.9 pounds.

03-19-2013, 05:04 AM	#9
robispec Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Black frs project Location: Socal Posts: 960 Thanks: 189 Thanked 886 Times in 381 Posts Mentioned: 190 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	what sort of aluminum alloy is used for the end joints? 7075 Can we get closer up pictures of the adjustable RCA section? I got what I got can correct roll center for up to a 4" drop from stock Can the track width be adjusted with the arm on the car? I ask because I notice there is only one locking nut so doesnt look like the joint can rotate to adjust without it being off the car. No I dont like the compromises in beam strength and the weight increases by making it adjustable "on the car" the 12mm bolt is easy to remove and the rod end is easy to index at 1/2 turn/side when needed Exact weight? I've seen the stock front control arms on the scale and its 5.9 pounds. I've weighed ten stock arms and they vary from 5.9 to 6.1 ours are 3.00 with steel rod ends even if they weigh more the strength lack of flex and adgustability are the winners here! (imo)

03-19-2013, 05:07 AM	#10
eckoflyte Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Toyota 86 GTS Location: Sydney Posts: 246 Thanks: 45 Thanked 47 Times in 33 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	sweet. can these be shipped with OEM mounting points already positioned so no need for end user to have to measure and mess around with adjustment?

03-19-2013, 05:59 AM	#11
Captain Snooze Because compromise ® Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Red Herring Location: australia Posts: 7,817 Thanks: 4,047 Thanked 9,548 Times in 4,194 Posts Mentioned: 60 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ummmm... I see Heim/rose joints. What are bump steerable tierod ends? Ta.

03-19-2013, 08:08 AM	#13
eckoflyte Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Toyota 86 GTS Location: Sydney Posts: 246 Thanks: 45 Thanked 47 Times in 33 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	sorry the barrage of questions, but i think it may be useful for other users too. i've noticed the front mounting (if picturing from the right side of the car) of the arm is offset so that it is mounted lower thereby the control is angled downward toward the front. Would this be a pro-dive setup? I would think you would prefer the offset the other way around to induce anti-dive. What are your experiences on handling/driving the car with either setup? And what do you prefer in the FRS?

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