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Old 02-19-2015, 10:24 PM   #1
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Why I like Mazda engineers

Those dudes are innovative and passionate and even when you ask em to build an electric car they are like "we had this "RE," um "range extender" we can put in it." Rotary bitch!

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As a company mostly helmed by engineers, Mazda does things a little differently. Where bean counters might have abandoned the modest torque and not the
inconsiderable thirstiness of the rotary engine, the company's directors seem obsessed with finding a way to cram their triangle-powered engine into
something, anything.
They are like that guy that wants to do something freaky and their girl says no, but they keep bringing it back around.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...ange-extender/

It's such a dichotomy and it's great.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR2lvUnr3yg"][RX Memo 001] MAZDA Brand New Rotary Engine for range extender 2013 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-HfVhTh6jE"][RX Memo 002] MAZDA Brand New Rotary Engine for range extender 2013 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXJALqFBz3k"][RX Memo 003] MAZDA Brand New Rotary Engine for range extender 2013 - YouTube[/ame]


That would make a great engine for my motorcycle. Gotta head over to Mazda parts and see how much one of those things cost. They will be so happy I'm not asking for 24 year old RX7 parts anymore.




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Old 02-19-2015, 11:51 PM   #2
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not to mention the rx9, with that ambitious electric turbo rotary. Was just talking to a colleague today that's a total mazdahead, said that their prototypes got wiped out the tsunami a few years ago, including two rotary engineers.. This is all I can find on that info, though.. anyone know what happened? https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mazda-Tv/215948318504593
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If you know what you're doing, they're awesome motors in my opinion.

If only they could have one produced that was more efficient and met the required standards.
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Old 02-20-2015, 01:29 AM   #5
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the most painful irony is that the argument, "communism is a great idea" really isn't a great idea, and has been the nail in the liberal coffin since day 1 since they adopted the 'collective over the individual' paradigm. Humans are inherently flawed, so to try and perfect them into becoming rigid, like a number able to be moved around, is impossible. People in a position of power in communist political systems will have potential for corruption ad continuum. Only the problem of communism compounds the hurt by having these same people be the ones with the final say on who gets what.

Such a bullshit perspective but academia keeps continually championing what a "perfect world" it would be if only "communism worked in reality".. so far away from reality it hurts
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Old 02-20-2015, 01:34 AM   #6
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I agree, the smoothness and of a rotary, coupled with that hellish 2 stroke type scream is amazing, you really do have to rev the crap out of them to get going...well on the renesis atleast.

I considered buying one, and i know a forum is not the place to look, as only people with issue post about it, while there are thousands of other happy owners out there that are none the wiser....

The Fuel consumption along with having to add 2 stroke oil for engine longivity was kindoff a deal breaker for me....
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No time for the mindless bandwagon haters.

Don't like it on the merits, fuel consumption for example, fine. Hate it because someone told you too, good luck going through life making decisions like that.

Communism, no; it's far more "unfair" than the most rapacious capitalism. Socialism, at its most basic, works. It works as long as you don't introduce humans into the system.
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"Why I like Mazda engineers"

Now Mad, does anybody truly "like" an engineer? Even engineers frequently don't "like" engineers.
Tolerate, suffer through, put up with or even appreciate I can agree to but "like" is a pretty strong word!

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I wish I could buy another FC3S. I loved that thing. The body styling is beautiful. It was such a maintenance nightmare though. I spent more nights in the garage than I did out driving it. And mine was in really good condition. I am currently in the process of a Turbo II FC3S track car build with a good friend and its so much more stressful than a 4 cylinder build. Parts are hard to come by, have been discontinued, or are super expensive. Tuners are getting scarce too. Regardless of my past experience and the fact that I know their faults, every now and them I do a craigslist search for them...just in case.
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the most painful irony is that the argument, "communism is a great idea" really isn't a great idea, and has been the nail in the liberal coffin since day 1 since they adopted the 'collective over the individual' paradigm. Humans are inherently flawed, so to try and perfect them into becoming rigid, like a number able to be moved around, is impossible. People in a position of power in communist political systems will have potential for corruption ad continuum. Only the problem of communism compounds the hurt by having these same people be the ones with the final say on who gets what.

Such a bullshit perspective but academia keeps continually championing what a "perfect world" it would be if only "communism worked in reality".. so far away from reality it hurts
LOL at how wrong this post is. And another LOL on how butthurt someone got when a rotary was compared to communism.

That's super funny stuff right there.

If we're going to compare an engine design to an economic philosophy I'd say the Rotary more closely reflects the outcome of Trickle Down. It was adopted in the 80's, didn't work the way it was promised, only benefited a tiny minority at the loss of the majority but yet a certain group of people keep pushing the agenda in the face of overwhelming evidence to its contrary.

Sounds a lot like a reality of the rotary to me.


Please Mazda, let the affair die.. She's an abusive girlfriend and she's no good for you, she never will be.. Just let her go man.. just let her go.
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LOL at how wrong this post is. And another LOL on how butthurt someone got when a rotary was compared to communism.

That's super funny stuff right there.

If we're going to compare an engine design to an economic philosophy I'd say the Rotary more closely reflects the outcome of Trickle Down. It was adopted in the 80's, didn't work the way it was promised, only benefited a tiny minority at the loss of the majority but yet a certain group of people keep pushing the agenda in the face of overwhelming evidence to its contrary.

Sounds a lot like a reality of the rotary to me.


Please Mazda, let the affair die.. She's an abusive girlfriend and she's no good for you, she never will be.. Just let her go man.. just let her go.
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not to mention the rx9, with that ambitious electric turbo rotary.
You forgot to mention the lasers.




Also, OP that article is 2 years old...

Edit: @rice_classic I think you're being a little unfair in your comparison. The ****bags that push trickle down, voodoo, Reaganomics whatever screw over everyone. The rotary does not screw over other enthusiasts, only helps by diversifying the field and adding competition.




Edit2: If I had all the money in the world I'd take one of those little suckers, slap two or three of them together and drop it in a Honda S500-800 chassis (of course a roller with no hope of originality).

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I think those engineers should continue their rotary development without pay...

In the meantime the world will continue to fund development of efficient, emissions friendly propulsion systems for vehicles.
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Loved it when I was able to drive it without worries. I had a clean FB, I loved it every moment when I drove it, the engine note is unique to anything out there right now. But it was old and has its issues pretty much every time I take it out... I got tired of that and sold it. If I had more time and maybe more knowledge on how to do everything myself then I wouldn't be afraid to get into it again.
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