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IAMTHEWG · 02-11-2015, 08:00 PM

Alright gentleman I'd like some insight if anyone has had this situation yet. I've been around this forum for a while and some similar things have come up but not quite this. My current setup is just too damn loud. I love it all but my neighbor just had a new born and I literally wake him up everyday so I feel bad.

What's a rockin:
Borla UEL
Invidia OP
Invidia Catless front pipe
Greddy Evo 3 catback

Now I was thinking of swapping my Evo 3 out for an Invidia Q300 to quiet it down. But I'm having reservations thinking it might be better volume wise to start by adding a cat and getting an Invidia catted front pipe.

So what do you guys think is a better way to tone down my car to start. Catted front pipe, or dropping the Evo 3 and going to the Q300?

Or hell I might as well just end up doing both. But I don't want it too quiet either

Malt · 02-11-2015, 08:09 PM

Put the stock catback back on and give it a whirl. It just might be perfect for you while not costing you a dime.

2much · 02-11-2015, 08:11 PM

I haven't seen it reviewed, but this comes to mind:

http://jdlautodesign.net/shop/ft86-u...et-front-pipe/

Akari · 02-11-2015, 08:11 PM

Is it too loud after it has been running a while and is warmed up, or only on cold start? -The reason I ask is my car was insanely loud with exhaust and headers for a few minutes on startup until I changed some parameters to disable the cold start mode in my tune. Now I don't wake up my neighbors or really make all that much noise until I really get my RPMs up when driving.

Freeman · 02-11-2015, 08:16 PM

Catted front pipe and Q300 catback.

aznatama · 02-11-2015, 08:22 PM

I have the P&L catted EL header, and open everything else. Just fine.

It's the catless setup you have that really makes it LOUD. having a HFC on there somewhere will dampen things quite a bit.

JimmyMac · 02-11-2015, 11:43 PM

I disagree. I run/ran a catless P&L EL header with P&L overpipe and P&L catted frontpipe with an Invidia N1, it was just too loud and droned pretty bad. It was even bad when I switched out the catless portion with a catted portion on my P&L header (I have both pieces). I sold the Invidia N1 and went back to stock. Never looked back. No more drone. Exhaust is nice and somewhat quiet now. Don't get me wrong, I loved the sound of the exhaust when I got on it with the N1, and idle was great. Just everyday driving sucked. And forget about start ups hehe.

My advice, try the stock catback. If it suits you, then go for the Q300. That Ultra Quiet Front Pipe looks like something to try as well if you go money to burn. I probably would have tried it back then if it was around. It might be an option for me soon since I'm switching up my complete setup (going turbo). HKS has something similar as well.

Kostamojen · 02-12-2015, 04:10 AM

Just have a resonator welded in.

brn12345 · 02-12-2015, 04:24 AM

The cold start timing retard can be modified to reduce sound on initial warm up. I know when I had my Tomei 60s on that the car was very loud during warm up. The solution for this is to go in to the cold start timing map and reduce timing from -15 to 0 in the full table. This will significantly reduce the sound.

As a work around when you first start the car put your foot on the accelerator and raise RPM's to around 2000-2200. This should force the ECU out of the cold start retard and reduce sound. I know this sounds wrong but it does work. Try it.

raven1231 · 02-12-2015, 05:18 AM

I had similar setup and switched to q300 from advice of members and its perfect now.

tracerit · 02-12-2015, 06:15 AM

Is the Borla catted?

aznatama · 02-12-2015, 09:30 AM

I don't think borlas have a catted option. Check my exhaust videos, my setup is pretty quiet.

Startup timing can be changed to get rid of the warm up volume.

I'd try the cheapest option first, try the factory fp?

Cartman · 02-12-2015, 01:13 PM

Cats barely affect the noise level, that's mostly the catback... I noticed a little increase in volume with my Q300 going from a catted header to a catless header, but nothing I would call significant

Black Tire · 02-12-2015, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2much

I haven't seen it reviewed, but this comes to mind:

http://jdlautodesign.net/shop/ft86-u...et-front-pipe/

I have been waiting for someone to try this to see how much it helps with the sound.

02-11-2015, 08:00 PM	#1
IAMTHEWG Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: Scion Fr-s Location: NJ Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't think this is beating a dead horse Alright gentleman I'd like some insight if anyone has had this situation yet. I've been around this forum for a while and some similar things have come up but not quite this. My current setup is just too damn loud. I love it all but my neighbor just had a new born and I literally wake him up everyday so I feel bad. What's a rockin: Borla UEL Invidia OP Invidia Catless front pipe Greddy Evo 3 catback Now I was thinking of swapping my Evo 3 out for an Invidia Q300 to quiet it down. But I'm having reservations thinking it might be better volume wise to start by adding a cat and getting an Invidia catted front pipe. So what do you guys think is a better way to tone down my car to start. Catted front pipe, or dropping the Evo 3 and going to the Q300? Or hell I might as well just end up doing both. But I don't want it too quiet either __________________ MINE!- -Perrin CAI, Borla UEL -Invidia OP/DP, Catless Front Pipe -Greddy Evo3 Catback -LEDs In and Out, LED Fogs, Hids

02-11-2015, 08:22 PM	#6
aznatama Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: 2014 BRZ MT (Sold); 2006 V70R Location: Fairfax Posts: 873 Thanks: 10 Thanked 186 Times in 150 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have the P&L catted EL header, and open everything else. Just fine. It's the catless setup you have that really makes it LOUD. having a HFC on there somewhere will dampen things quite a bit. __________________ '14 BRZ LTD MT DGM

02-12-2015, 04:24 AM	#9
brn12345 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: BRZ Location: Bahrain Posts: 254 Thanks: 101 Thanked 137 Times in 63 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The cold start timing retard can be modified to reduce sound on initial warm up. I know when I had my Tomei 60s on that the car was very loud during warm up. The solution for this is to go in to the cold start timing map and reduce timing from -15 to 0 in the full table. This will significantly reduce the sound. As a work around when you first start the car put your foot on the accelerator and raise RPM's to around 2000-2200. This should force the ECU out of the cold start retard and reduce sound. I know this sounds wrong but it does work. Try it. __________________ 2013 Lightning Red - 6MT Perrin Inlet Hose ~ TRD Panel Air Filter ~ OEM Modified Snorkel ~ Revolution 4-2-1 EL Header ~ HKS Resonated Front Pipe ~ BRZedit self tune ~ KW Clubsport Coilovers ~ AP Racing Big Brake 4 Piston ~ Whiteline Front Endlinks ~ Perrin Rear Endlinks ~ WedsSport TC105N 17x8 42+ ~Dunlop Direzza II Star Spec 225/45/17 ~ STI Trunk Lid Spoiler

02-12-2015, 05:18 AM	#10
raven1231 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: 2013 Firestorm FR-S, 2016 DGM WRX Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 4,580 Thanks: 8,264 Thanked 3,118 Times in 1,667 Posts Mentioned: 24 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I had similar setup and switched to q300 from advice of members and its perfect now. __________________ http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59870

02-12-2015, 09:30 AM	#12
aznatama Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: 2014 BRZ MT (Sold); 2006 V70R Location: Fairfax Posts: 873 Thanks: 10 Thanked 186 Times in 150 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't think borlas have a catted option. Check my exhaust videos, my setup is pretty quiet. Startup timing can be changed to get rid of the warm up volume. I'd try the cheapest option first, try the factory fp? __________________ '14 BRZ LTD MT DGM

02-11-2015, 08:09 PM	#2
Malt Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2015 WRX Location: NC Posts: 987 Thanks: 186 Thanked 624 Times in 364 Posts Mentioned: 24 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Put the stock catback back on and give it a whirl. It just might be perfect for you while not costing you a dime.

02-11-2015, 08:11 PM	#4
Akari Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2013 DGM BRZ Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 417 Thanks: 181 Thanked 149 Times in 97 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Is it too loud after it has been running a while and is warmed up, or only on cold start? -The reason I ask is my car was insanely loud with exhaust and headers for a few minutes on startup until I changed some parameters to disable the cold start mode in my tune. Now I don't wake up my neighbors or really make all that much noise until I really get my RPMs up when driving.

02-11-2015, 11:43 PM	#7
JimmyMac Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S, 2016 Miata Club Location: NC Posts: 785 Thanks: 183 Thanked 258 Times in 171 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I disagree. I run/ran a catless P&L EL header with P&L overpipe and P&L catted frontpipe with an Invidia N1, it was just too loud and droned pretty bad. It was even bad when I switched out the catless portion with a catted portion on my P&L header (I have both pieces). I sold the Invidia N1 and went back to stock. Never looked back. No more drone. Exhaust is nice and somewhat quiet now. Don't get me wrong, I loved the sound of the exhaust when I got on it with the N1, and idle was great. Just everyday driving sucked. And forget about start ups hehe. My advice, try the stock catback. If it suits you, then go for the Q300. That Ultra Quiet Front Pipe looks like something to try as well if you go money to burn. I probably would have tried it back then if it was around. It might be an option for me soon since I'm switching up my complete setup (going turbo). HKS has something similar as well.

02-12-2015, 04:10 AM	#8
Kostamojen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: 1993 Impreza w/ WRX Swap + FWD! Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 2,071 Thanks: 217 Thanked 952 Times in 500 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Just have a resonator welded in.

02-12-2015, 06:15 AM	#11
tracerit Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: '13 SSM BRZ Limited 6MT Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 593 Thanked 198 Times in 137 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Is the Borla catted?

02-12-2015, 01:13 PM	#13
Cartman Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Drives: 10 Series Scion FR-S Location: PR Posts: 328 Thanks: 79 Thanked 185 Times in 129 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Cats barely affect the noise level, that's mostly the catback... I noticed a little increase in volume with my Q300 going from a catted header to a catless header, but nothing I would call significant

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