do you guys pull your airbag fuse during AUTOCROSS runs? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

7thgear · 10-23-2013, 11:43 AM

i always think about this but i never actually do it

does anyone here pull their airbag fuse prior to competition?

no one really ever talks about it...

Scooby South · 10-23-2013, 01:43 PM

nope...never even considered it. maybe for a HPDE...but not Autocross..

Bill

jprice130 · 10-23-2013, 02:30 PM

Interesting question....I was at a local AutoX a few weeks ago and a dude in a 2012 Cadillac CTS-V had all his airbags deploy mid-run. He was just working his way thru a slalom and POOF! I'm sure he wished he had done something to disable the airbags before competing.

SubiePig · 10-23-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jprice130

Interesting question....I was at a local AutoX a few weeks ago and a dude in a 2012 Cadillac CTS-V had all his airbags deploy mid-run. He was just working his way thru a slalom and POOF! I'm sure he wished he had done something to disable the airbags before competing.

I doubt this had anything to do with the autocross event. Even still

rice_classic · 10-23-2013, 02:45 PM

Unless I have a cage and a 5 or 6pt harness, airbag continues to be part of the equation. It is a safety device.

CSG David · 10-23-2013, 02:45 PM

Camaro did the same thing mid corner. Driver cut the airbag out in the paddock and continued to drive for the rest of the day. BAUS!

EAGLE5 · 10-23-2013, 02:48 PM

Sounds like a gm problem.

feldy · 10-23-2013, 03:20 PM

It is.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCMZZPpC7AA"]Cadillac CTS V Sport Wagon Blows Its Airbag Autocross Run - YouTube[/ame]

Here is a GM engineer that was on his honey moon rented the car and took it to a autocross didnt hit anything but the airbags went off. lol

7thgear · 10-23-2013, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rice_classic

Unless I have a cage and a 5 or 6pt harness, airbag continues to be part of the equation. It is a safety device.

i disagree

at the speed of a decelerating autocross car that went offcourse, any head-on impact wouldn't be enough to warrant an airbag. But that's my personal choice.

it ain't gonna stop whiplash or your brain acceleration anyway, so meh.

all it takes is specific direction motion, a flat hit, and speeds above 10 or maybe even 5kph for the bags to deploy

would suck to get a fist full of nylon from hitting a wall of cones at 10km/h

rice_classic · 10-23-2013, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 7thgear

i disagree

Good point. The situation of Autocross makes sense. I'd rather pay for a little fender damage then an airbag deployment. But other than that when real speeds are involved, I can't see the reason to remove it unless a cage is part of the equation.

ayau · 10-23-2013, 03:47 PM

Assuming the airbag system in your vehicle works properly (i.e., not randomly deploying) and you're running 100% OEM safety equipment, I don't see the point in disabling it. Why would you disable it? I can only see the negatives of disabling an airbag system.

If you crash head-on, you'll want that airbag stop your neck/spine from hyperextending. If you were running HANS, then I could see someone disabling their airbag, but my understanding is that HANS should be used in conjuction with cage, seat, etc.

7thgear · 10-23-2013, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayau

Assuming the airbag system in your vehicle works properly (i.e., not randomly deploying) and you're running 100% OEM safety equipment, I don't see the point in disabling it. Why would you disable it? I can only see the negatives of disabling an airbag system.

If you crash head-on, you'll want that airbag stop your neck/spine from hyperextending. If you were running HANS, then I could see someone disabling their airbag, but my understanding is that HANS should be used in conjuction with cage, seat, etc.

how much hyperextending are you gonna get at 10km/h

i've flown off my bike at higher speeds than that and landed on my feet like it ain't no thang

i guess i should have made this thread autocross specific, as i agree on a high speed track i wouldn't want to turn it off

Miniata · 10-23-2013, 09:52 PM

Never on the BRZ or on any of the half dozen other cars I've autocrossed in the last 14 years. Don't particularly like airbags, but don't feel the need to disable them for autocrossing.

feldy · 10-23-2013, 10:57 PM

Not on my auto cross cars

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rice_classic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Nevermorange FRS Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,171 Thanks: 757 Thanked 4,206 Times in 1,807 Posts Mentioned: 78 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Unless I have a cage and a 5 or 6pt harness, airbag continues to be part of the equation. It is a safety device. __________________ SCCA T4 - FRS

10-23-2013, 03:20 PM	#8
feldy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Drives: 2013 FRS Asphalt Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 1,155 Thanks: 309 Thanked 335 Times in 212 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It is. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCMZZPpC7AA"]Cadillac CTS V Sport Wagon Blows Its Airbag Autocross Run - YouTube[/ame] Here is a GM engineer that was on his honey moon rented the car and took it to a autocross didnt hit anything but the airbags went off. lol __________________ 2013 Scion FR-S AT Picked up 5/30/2012

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Miniata Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 13 BRZ - 90 Miata - 07 FXT -05 Mini Location: Ohio Posts: 546 Thanks: 6 Thanked 142 Times in 105 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Never on the BRZ or on any of the half dozen other cars I've autocrossed in the last 14 years. Don't particularly like airbags, but don't feel the need to disable them for autocrossing. __________________ 17x7 Kosei K1-TS w/ 215/45-17 Dunlop Star Specs Nameless Track Pipe - Strano front sway bar

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feldy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Drives: 2013 FRS Asphalt Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 1,155 Thanks: 309 Thanked 335 Times in 212 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Not on my auto cross cars __________________ 2013 Scion FR-S AT Picked up 5/30/2012

10-23-2013, 02:30 PM	#3
jprice130 AutoX Nut Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2020 Toyota Supra Location: Harrisburg, NC Posts: 268 Thanks: 76 Thanked 74 Times in 59 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Interesting question....I was at a local AutoX a few weeks ago and a dude in a 2012 Cadillac CTS-V had all his airbags deploy mid-run. He was just working his way thru a slalom and POOF! I'm sure he wished he had done something to disable the airbags before competing.

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CSG David Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: S2000 CR Location: California Posts: 2,109 Thanks: 537 Thanked 1,723 Times in 956 Posts Mentioned: 173 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Camaro did the same thing mid corner. Driver cut the airbag out in the paddock and continued to drive for the rest of the day. BAUS!

10-23-2013, 03:47 PM	#11
ayau Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Some rust bucket Location: Polar ice cap Posts: 3,058 Thanks: 312 Thanked 1,046 Times in 556 Posts Mentioned: 37 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Assuming the airbag system in your vehicle works properly (i.e., not randomly deploying) and you're running 100% OEM safety equipment, I don't see the point in disabling it. Why would you disable it? I can only see the negatives of disabling an airbag system. If you crash head-on, you'll want that airbag stop your neck/spine from hyperextending. If you were running HANS, then I could see someone disabling their airbag, but my understanding is that HANS should be used in conjuction with cage, seat, etc.

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