Trouble getting into gear in the morning? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

ozne99 · 11-11-2012, 05:51 PM

Every morning since I've picked up my car, I am unable to shift into a gear after starting it up in the morning, especially reverse. Anyone else encounter the same issue?

BRZfan · 11-11-2012, 06:58 PM

"unable" or just difficult?

It may be just because it needs warming up, as you probably already realize.
Solution: put it in reverse right after (for safety) you shut'r down or in the gear you will first want to use.

It can be a little difficult, possibly with more use it will loosen up. I have about 4500 miles on my BRZ.

Batman · 11-11-2012, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozne99

Every morning since I've picked up my car, I am unable to shift into a gear after starting it up in the morning, especially reverse. Anyone else encounter the same issue?

It helps to push in the clutch! Lol
But really, is it just tough to get in until the car warms up? Or tough period? Ive noticed I have to let my car warm up a bit to have if shift easy, and 2nd gear always gives me grief

joergasm · 11-11-2012, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozne99

Every morning since I've picked up my car, I am unable to shift into a gear after starting it up in the morning, especially reverse. Anyone else encounter the same issue?

Experienced the same thing, check my thread:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21860

RazBRZ · 11-12-2012, 12:15 AM

I constantly have 2nd gear issues sometime after it warms up. It's always clunky and sometimes grinds. Every other gear is fine

JarCEO · 11-12-2012, 01:28 AM

Do you guys have a problem downshifting from 3rd to 2nd when cold? Mine just doesnt want to downshift to 2nd when the engine is cold.

Dezoris · 11-12-2012, 01:44 AM

If you are in a cold climate you may want to check out the fluids forum. There are plenty of cars with Aisin trans that get very notchy or difficult to shift when cold.
It is almost always solved with using a better trans fluid.

As soon as it got into the 30s second gear was nearly impossible to use when cold.
I switched to Pentosin fluid and its a major improvement. 2nd is notchy a bit when cold but it wont fight or grind even downshifts. Also helped a bit with reverse. You have to remember from the factory they are not going to spend a ton of money on higher quality oils.

ozne99 · 11-12-2012, 07:28 PM

Thanks for the tips guys. I'll try the 2nd gear trick when I get back home from my business trip. Just glad I'm not the only one experiencing this.

Jayde · 11-12-2012, 09:09 PM

As I've stated in other threads, I myself usually let the engine warm up for a few minutes anyway. Usually till the temp gauge moves a little a bit and the engine rpms drop below 1000. The first second gear shift is a little clunky, but no grinding, and is usually fine after that.

AZP Installs · 11-12-2012, 09:22 PM

We've seen this in subies and the new BRZ/FRS the best solution for semi-cold climates and just about anyone is to go with the Motul Gear 300 fluid for the trans and rear diffy. We stock and ship it if anyone needs it and we've had phenomenal results from it in the Subies over the years.

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Dorb · 11-12-2012, 10:55 PM

Had mine 1 week and have trouble getting it into reverse. What I have done is stick it in 1st and move forward a little then it seems to allow it to drop into reverse. I have been keeping extra space in front so I can do this if need be. Hope this is just because its new. Just turned 400 miles.

RazBRZ · 11-13-2012, 01:24 AM

What about Amsoil?

noodleface · 11-15-2012, 03:19 PM

When downshifting, try double-clutching until the car warms up. My WRX 5 speed also had some difficulty going down a gear before it was fully warmed up.

DarkSunrise · 11-15-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by noodleface

When downshifting, try double-clutching until the car warms up. My WRX 5 speed also had some difficulty going down a gear before it was fully warmed up.

Yes this has worked for me in 35-45 degree conditions. Just need to double-clutch into 2nd for the first couple of minutes until the transmission has warmed up.

11-11-2012, 05:51 PM	#1
ozne99 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: GBS BRZ Limited Location: NorCal Posts: 223 Thanks: 75 Thanked 62 Times in 45 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Trouble getting into gear in the morning? Every morning since I've picked up my car, I am unable to shift into a gear after starting it up in the morning, especially reverse. Anyone else encounter the same issue?

11-12-2012, 01:44 AM	#7
Dezoris Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: IL Posts: 2,857 Thanks: 519 Thanked 2,998 Times in 1,095 Posts Mentioned: 159 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	If you are in a cold climate you may want to check out the fluids forum. There are plenty of cars with Aisin trans that get very notchy or difficult to shift when cold. It is almost always solved with using a better trans fluid. As soon as it got into the 30s second gear was nearly impossible to use when cold. I switched to Pentosin fluid and its a major improvement. 2nd is notchy a bit when cold but it wont fight or grind even downshifts. Also helped a bit with reverse. You have to remember from the factory they are not going to spend a ton of money on higher quality oils. __________________ SAVAGEGEESE

11-12-2012, 09:09 PM	#9
Jayde Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2013 Satin White Pearl BRZ Limited Location: Poughkeepsie, NY Posts: 2,310 Thanks: 751 Thanked 696 Times in 464 Posts Mentioned: 47 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	As I've stated in other threads, I myself usually let the engine warm up for a few minutes anyway. Usually till the temp gauge moves a little a bit and the engine rpms drop below 1000. The first second gear shift is a little clunky, but no grinding, and is usually fine after that. __________________ ◄Tri-State Owners Club, Facebook Group► *BRZerhood*

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BRZfan Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013BRZ Premium St Silver Metallic Location: USA Posts: 824 Thanks: 79 Thanked 212 Times in 156 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	"unable" or just difficult? It may be just because it needs warming up, as you probably already realize. Solution: put it in reverse right after (for safety) you shut'r down or in the gear you will first want to use. It can be a little difficult, possibly with more use it will loosen up. I have about 4500 miles on my BRZ.

11-12-2012, 01:28 AM	#6
JarCEO Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 SWP BRZ Location: Regina Posts: 11 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Do you guys have a problem downshifting from 3rd to 2nd when cold? Mine just doesnt want to downshift to 2nd when the engine is cold.

11-12-2012, 07:28 PM	#8
ozne99 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: GBS BRZ Limited Location: NorCal Posts: 223 Thanks: 75 Thanked 62 Times in 45 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks for the tips guys. I'll try the 2nd gear trick when I get back home from my business trip. Just glad I'm not the only one experiencing this.

11-12-2012, 09:22 PM	#10
AZP Installs Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: '11 STi->'14 BRZ \| '14 Touareg TDi Location: Kenilworth, NJ Posts: 1,269 Thanks: 359 Thanked 558 Times in 371 Posts Mentioned: 49 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	We've seen this in subies and the new BRZ/FRS the best solution for semi-cold climates and just about anyone is to go with the Motul Gear 300 fluid for the trans and rear diffy. We stock and ship it if anyone needs it and we've had phenomenal results from it in the Subies over the years. -Mike Paisan 11+ Years Maintaining, Modifying and Educating TriState Subaru Enthusiasts. Call directly as We carry almost every manufacturer now, so before you buy parts call us. Like us on Facebook! \| E-mail: sales@azpinstalls.com \| 725 Fairfield Ave \| Kenilworth, NJ 07033 \| 908.248.AZP1 (2971) \| T-1 Certified Amsoil Direct Jobber \|AIM: AZP Installs *"Race Tested, Enthusiast Approved!"*

11-12-2012, 10:55 PM	#11
Dorb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 16 LM STI/13 LM BRZ/04 AVALANCHE Location: Ohio,Dayton area... Posts: 318 Thanks: 196 Thanked 89 Times in 53 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Had mine 1 week and have trouble getting it into reverse. What I have done is stick it in 1st and move forward a little then it seems to allow it to drop into reverse. I have been keeping extra space in front so I can do this if need be. Hope this is just because its new. Just turned 400 miles.

11-15-2012, 03:19 PM	#13
noodleface Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: '13 BRZ Ltd WRB/'17 STI CWP Location: Boston Posts: 51 Thanks: 8 Thanked 32 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	When downshifting, try double-clutching until the car warms up. My WRX 5 speed also had some difficulty going down a gear before it was fully warmed up.

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