Quick question re: 6-speed cars - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

CaptainSlow · 10-22-2012, 10:50 PM

Sorry, I wasn't sure what to search for here, and I couldn't find the information I was looking for on Scions site.

The FRS I test drove a few weeks back was an automatic. I placed my order for a 6-speed after we got back to the dealership. The car I drove had different "modes" for sport and snow...Buttons were right behind the main shift lever. My question is whether those are still there on the 6-speed, and if so, what exactly changes in each mode. If not, what is available on the 6-speed?

Thanks to anyone who can help give a little insight!

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Shagaliscious · 10-22-2012, 10:52 PM

No they won't be.

The different modes are specifically for the AT. Snow mode makes it start it 2nd gear.

GMU-BRZ · 10-22-2012, 10:54 PM

Snow mode turns on the all wheel drive.

@Art_Mighty · 10-22-2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainSlow

Sorry, I wasn't sure what to search for here, and I couldn't find the information I was looking for on Scions site.

The FRS I test drove a few weeks back was an automatic. I placed my order for a 6-speed after we got back to the dealership. The car I drove had different "modes" for sport and snow...Buttons were right behind the main shift lever. My question is whether those are still there on the 6-speed (meaning do the modes change the operation of the transmission), and if so, what exactly changes in each mode

Thanks to anyone who can help give a little insight!

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So they're both 6 speed transmissions (the manual and the automatic). The sport and snow bottons are there only for the automatic transmission and they change the shifting algorithms.

Jive Turkey · 10-22-2012, 11:03 PM

the automatic 6-speed is a torque converter box just FYI. basically snow mode makes it engage 2nd from the start so you dont have a lot of tq instantly, and the sport mode just bumps the shifting point and makes the trans stay in gear a bit longer when you aren't WOT.

manual doesn't have any because the initial TQ and rpm shifting points and hang time is all done by the driver.

rikdrt1 · 10-22-2012, 11:12 PM

SPORT mode in Auto is a hella fun - it does sport downshifting and is quick as hell. i love it and i didnt evven know all about what it can do until i took the car out to the canyon for a fast run - -now i cant stay away from there every wknd.. love the auto sport mode - like a jeckyl-hyde for the usually booring auto tranny.

jmaryt · 10-22-2012, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GMU-BRZ

Snow mode turns on the all wheel drive.

ehe! he! he! i like this!

jmaryt · 10-22-2012, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GMU-BRZ

Snow mode turns on the all wheel drive.

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Originally Posted by rikdrt1

SPORT mode in Auto is a hella fun - it does sport downshifting and is quick as hell. i love it and i didnt evven know all about what it can do until i took the car out to the canyon for a fast run - -now i cant stay away from there every wknd.. love the auto sport mode - like a jeckyl-hyde for the usually booring auto tranny.

i agree! the 'slush" box in this car is delightful! lot of fun!,and ya get
'"stinkin'" good" gas mileage too!

CaptainSlow · 10-22-2012, 11:29 PM

Thanks everyone! I figured it was in the transmission, but couldn't confirm it anywhere...someone was telling me it also did something to the suspension, but I figured that wasn't correct info

jmaryt · 10-22-2012, 11:37 PM

incorrect! it "plays" with the gear ratios,making the '"slush" "boucoup"
versatile! car's a "hoot" with either transmission!..just sayin'

Demandred7 · 10-23-2012, 09:59 PM

If you ended up ordering the Manual, then you will retain the Traction Control and VSC Sport Buttons. Shifting is completely you. The Automatic has the additional buttons that change how the Automatic behaves. Your friend that was talking about it affecting the suspension may have been talking about how different levels of the VSC affect the dynamics of the vehicle (i.e., that VSC Sport will allow you to walk the back end out more than normal mode would let you). VSC Off is the extreme with no intervention by the Stability Control.

gmookher · 10-23-2012, 11:00 PM

I recommend everyone try and learn how to drive stick..

CircuitJerk · 10-23-2012, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gmookher

I recommend everyone try and learn how to drive stick..

Buuuuut... But... I already know how to drive stick

einzlr · 10-24-2012, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by gmookher

I recommend everyone try and learn how to drive stick..

That's what ... ....

10-22-2012, 10:50 PM	#1
CaptainSlow Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Mid-Michigan Posts: 799 Thanks: 392 Thanked 388 Times in 180 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Quick question re: 6-speed cars Sorry, I wasn't sure what to search for here, and I couldn't find the information I was looking for on Scions site. The FRS I test drove a few weeks back was an automatic. I placed my order for a 6-speed after we got back to the dealership. The car I drove had different "modes" for sport and snow...Buttons were right behind the main shift lever. My question is whether those are still there on the 6-speed, and if so, what exactly changes in each mode. If not, what is available on the 6-speed? Thanks to anyone who can help give a little insight! __________________ Ultramarine 2013 Scion FR-S 6MT

10-22-2012, 11:29 PM	#9
CaptainSlow Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Mid-Michigan Posts: 799 Thanks: 392 Thanked 388 Times in 180 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks everyone! I figured it was in the transmission, but couldn't confirm it anywhere...someone was telling me it also did something to the suspension, but I figured that wasn't correct info __________________ Ultramarine 2013 Scion FR-S 6MT

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GMU-BRZ Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2013 Subaru Impreza Sport Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 279 Thanks: 103 Thanked 122 Times in 32 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Snow mode turns on the all wheel drive.

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Jive Turkey the tuna, no crust. Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2014 Hachiroku of the year Location: jersey Posts: 2,298 Thanks: 874 Thanked 1,770 Times in 761 Posts Mentioned: 78 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	the automatic 6-speed is a torque converter box just FYI. basically snow mode makes it engage 2nd from the start so you dont have a lot of tq instantly, and the sport mode just bumps the shifting point and makes the trans stay in gear a bit longer when you aren't WOT. manual doesn't have any because the initial TQ and rpm shifting points and hang time is all done by the driver.

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jmaryt Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2012 honda civic ex Location: salem,nh. Posts: 1,676 Thanks: 299 Thanked 186 Times in 144 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	incorrect! it "plays" with the gear ratios,making the '"slush" "boucoup" versatile! car's a "hoot" with either transmission!..just sayin'

10-23-2012, 09:59 PM	#11
Demandred7 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2018 Camry XSE V6 Location: Breslau, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,094 Thanks: 1,041 Thanked 367 Times in 228 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If you ended up ordering the Manual, then you will retain the Traction Control and VSC Sport Buttons. Shifting is completely you. The Automatic has the additional buttons that change how the Automatic behaves. Your friend that was talking about it affecting the suspension may have been talking about how different levels of the VSC affect the dynamics of the vehicle (i.e., that VSC Sport will allow you to walk the back end out more than normal mode would let you). VSC Off is the extreme with no intervention by the Stability Control.

10-23-2012, 11:00 PM	#12
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