TSP Performance?

[ThatYeti]

Anyone used them for tuning before? Saw an ad for a stock 86 with apparently just injectors, intake, header and exhaust they got a Dyno number of 220+ HP, which isn't lining up with what I've seen from others here. Curious if anyone has experience with it.

[DarkPira7e]

Do they show what the car made before the bolt-ons? A dyno is meant to show a difference vs baseline, a single measurement is generally useless. The BRZ isn't stock if it has all those bolt ons. I'd be concerned, there's no way a non forced induction BRZ could need more than stock injector, even with E85.

It's hogwash, assuming you are talking about the 1st gen.

[ThatYeti]

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

Do they show what the car made before the bolt-ons? A dyno is meant to show a difference vs baseline, a single measurement is generally useless. The BRZ isn't stock if it has all those bolt ons. I'd be concerned, there's no way a non forced induction BRZ could need more than stock injector, even with E85.

It's hogwash, assuming you are talking about the 1st gen.

Agreed that's why I asked and that's what they said:

https://fb.watch/j6d43tdpjB/?mibextid=RUbZ1f

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by ThatYeti

Agreed that's why I asked and that's what they said:

https://fb.watch/j6d43tdpjB/?mibextid=RUbZ1f

Saw an ad for a stock 86 with apparently just injectors, intake, header and exhaust they got a Dyno number of 220+ HP

156hp 139tq to 222ho 191tq on a first gen . Total BS.

Must be using OTL's dyno.

[ThatYeti]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

156hp 139tq to 222ho 191tq on a first gen . Total BS.

Must be using OTL's dyno.

What I assumed but figured someone on here must have the real story....cause if it's real somehow I'll make the drive this weekend.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by ThatYeti

What I assumed but figured someone on here must have the real story....cause if it's real somehow I'll make the drive this weekend.

The highest I had ever seen with a baseline was like 212whp, and I think that was E85. Don't remember the delta I think base was around 170whp. Unless they found some super secret magic recipe. Weird they did injectors on an NA car.

[ThatYeti]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

The highest I had ever seen with a baseline was like 212whp, and I think that was E85. Don't remember the delta I think base was around 170whp. Unless they found some super secret magic recipe. Weird they did injectors on an NA car.

Been a while since I looked at what others were getting but that's about what I remember, somewhere around 205-210 with e85 and headers after a tune but was surprised they said the changes needed were intake, header, exhaust and 1000cc injectors. Definitely seems unnecessary without FI.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by ThatYeti

Been a while since I looked at what others were getting but that's about what I remember, somewhere around 205-210 with e85 and headers after a tune but was surprised they said the changes needed were intake, header, exhaust and 1000cc injectors. Definitely seems unnecessary without FI.

The low boost CARB approved FI kits even run the stock injectors. 1000cc for NA is really odd

[DarkPira7e]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

The low boost CARB approved FI kits even run the stock injectors. 1000cc for NA is really odd

We had a shop nearby me that used to charge people for unnecessary mods and put them on their personal cars instead of the customer's. Fucking lowwww

[ThatYeti]

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

We had a shop nearby me that used to charge people for unnecessary mods and put them on their personal cars instead of the customer's. Fucking lowwww

No idea how they're supposedly getting to that number or why they need such big injectors but hopefully someone else finding them also finds this thread and passes on it.