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Originally Posted by conehead
Amen to that FRSBRZGT86FAN. If you want to push the margins of your timing and fuel trims, do so with a tune and accept the possible consequences. This snake oil product is sold for many vehicles, with the same miracle-cure-all claims for all of them. I first saw it on my truck forum and they had the same problem of novice enthusiasts snapping it up and bragging about the placebo effect of it. My sole argument is that forums should not be complicit in advertising it. Unfortunately, there is always some sucker who loves it like a televangelist and spreads the word.
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On your point the consequences with a stage 1 or stage 2 tune (i.e. header and tune) are nearly non existant on our car, you really lose nothing.
Second, the forums really weren't complicit, Crawford paid their vendor dues and have/had legitimate products , like catch cans, suspension stuff, exhaust systems turbo kits etc. They registered and such like any vendor should've. The last time they've been on the forum is 2015, and if you notice on their name they are definitely no longer a registered vendor on the site:
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12718
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/ad/ad_thesponsors.php
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13494
The current vendors on the site are pretty trustworthy and I've used a lot of their products and they follow the rules and stick to their sections.
As for crawford the two people who praised it mysteriously haven't posted in a real long time and had a incredibly short post history:
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/sear...rchid=19257458
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/sear...rchid=19257463
Also you necroed a 6 month old thread, so you've increased the visibility of this post quite a bit
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Originally Posted by why?
You still said this. You still think Subaru is the be all end all of everything. You still cannot admit you are wrong. You said, "Its all snake oil." I never said that, you did. Literally everything I have mentioned is very much a part of, "Its all." I'm still going to laugh in your face about it.
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I'd leave it be, but he's still seemingly thinking your defending this product. He also hasn't even mentioned why he thinks Subaru knew so much .