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Originally Posted by RJG_FRS_612
I've spent about a week with the new one and can agree with the others it feels like a more refined car. I think Toyota really stepped up the build quality once Scion was nixed. The interior looks/feels much nicer regardless of a mostly identical aesthetic design. The added tech is a nice touch as well, albeit rather limited compared to other 2020 cars that are available. Not sure why they put the back up camera in the rear view mirror when theres a much larger screen on the dash. The most noticeable difference is the gear ratio change as well as the tiny hp increase. It did not get rid of the infamous torque dip completely, but it feels greatly reduced at lower RPMs. The car feels a bit tighter, but I got this optioned with TRD sway bars and springs. My only gripe are the stock tires...I had Dunlop Direzza Star Specs on my FR-S and they have a much stiffer sidewall and felt more grippy. Tires will probably be my only mod once the stock ones are done.
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Don't think that coming from Scion had anything to do with it. The 86s everywhere else were all built the same as the FRS. The only real difference was we got some of the niceties that Scion did not offer as far as the interior goes and even that isn't greatly changed in the base models. All the other changes would have happened even if they didn't rebadge it so it is more of a timing coincidence than an upgrade to better quality because it caught up to the rest of the world and became a Toyota.
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Originally Posted by finch1750
How much of that feeling on the more refined feeling could be chalked up to it just being a new car vs one with age and miles on it do you think?
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There is a marked improvement in many things. I 100% agree with his thoughts on the final drive change. It most certainly adds a bit of pep on take off. It isn't huge and I don't think the 5hp increase has any affect at all but the drive does. It however comes at the cost of a bit worse highway mileage when cruising in 6th but it is a fair trade off.